Anna is the second artist...I shouldn't really count Fland...she has great talent, but apparently got caught in the Poppy Field...I wonder if she will ever awaken.  

 

May, 29

Peeky

Greetings Anna,

If you can come pretty close to the style of art that I have had developed before,  and are able to meet the other conditions called for in my job offer, than what will you charge for creating one of the scenes that I provided as a word file.  You can pick a scene, but chickens and chess is taken and probably the crazy wizard scene.  If one of the remaining characters strike you, please quote me on that.  I would like to know what you will charge for subsequent scenes/characters and for the giclee art as the art without the prints has little value on kickstarter

 

May, 29

Anna Sh

Hello, Peeky,

thank you for reaching out!

I can do the similar style as you provided as references though one would definitely recognize it's not the same artist. Your conditions look reasonable and I checked through the workflow you did with Ruslan on your site.

The thing is I do not do printing, I just provide an artwork in a required format. Thus I never worked with giclee specifically, do you want it to be a traditionally painted piece for printing? I can do watercolors, though prefer work digitally.

 

So regarding my workflow:

I checked the word files you provided: mostly scenes contains numerous characters and specific background - I would charge $XXX for an illustration. If you need a character concept to be developed (means a full color illustration of one character, no background) I would do it for $XXX a piece, and I dare say the character concepts is something I am really good at. I will not charge or limit a number of revisions as you feel a reasonable client to me. I will send you in-between drafts for revisions of any stages you require. When an illustration is approved I will send you the final piece in any formats you will ask for (Jpeg, tif, pdf etc) ready for printing. In layers if you want. Really anything. After it's paid, it's yours all and fully :) I would prefer to be paid for each piece separately after it's approved.

The thing I do not quite understand in your conditions is to print each scene revision, sign and post it  to you. Not that I am against, just never met such requirements before and not sure how it works. I believe it cannot be a real-time process according to the project timing, can it?

 

Let me know if you think we can come to an agreement on the project or you have any questions.

Have a good day!

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May, 29

Peeky  

Please review my last communique and the job specs. The limited edition prints are to be used in a fundraising project.  Without them, I cannot raises the anticipated funds I need. My last artist was from the Ukraine and he was able to find a printer for archival quality prints, Please review the info.  If you can figure this out, then we can work through the rest.

Peeky

 

May, 29

Anna Sh

I am Ukrainian, but stay in South Africa. Give me a day, I will try to find out if I can get a good printing opportunity here. I am not expert in printing, but I will use your current artist's proposal as reference for scope of work for limited edition prints.

Will get back to you soon.

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May, 29

There are also many printers on-line but there will likely be a quality printer if you are near a big city.

Peeky

 

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May, 30

Anna Sh

Waiting for quotations from several printing services I found here, will let you know soon.

Also I inquired about price for shipping the works to USA, as in South Africa one better not use local post service - there is high probability you will not get the package.

I am waiting for the information from the services tomorrow.  Thank you for your patience.

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May, 30

Peeky

Great. Thank you for checking on this!  My other artist in the Ukraine has shipped and intends to ship batches of the prints in a wooden enclosure to keep them from damage, There might be a picture on my site. If not I can find it, we are expecting to ship maybe a hundred at a time and to separate them with some paper or other material to keep them from sticking together.

Peeky

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Jun, 2

Anna Sh

Sorry for the delay, it took me several day to collect all the information.

Yes, I saw the wooden box on your site, though I wasn't able to find the same here. What I found is paper based honeycomb custom crate that is claimed to be protective enough for this type of shipping.

 

I also found a good printing service (actually went there and collected some samples, so I can be sure the quality of paper and printing is good). Here is the proposal: 

1. Epson Enhanced Matt Paper 190 gsm - A3  (29,7x42cm) - $XXX for each print (officially this paper do not considered archival, but the quality is still very good and can be used for high quality art prints. I am literally holding the samples in my hands now and this paper feels almost the same as the one listed next)

2. Tecco PM230 Matt Paper 230 gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print

3. Rembrandt CANVAS (cotton fabric, UV resistant) 380 gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print

 

Unfortunately they give no discounts for large amounts of prints.

 

Now about postage. The most affordable service I found here is PostNet. Their rates for shipping a package up to 5 kg (which for us is 100-200 of A3 prints depending on the type of paper we use) going to be about $XXX(it's including customized packaging).

 

Let me know what you think and if you have other questions.

Have a good day!

Anna

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Jun, 2

Peeky

You did very well with the research, thank you. Please find out what it would cost if they did use hey hello and, if there is such a thing, Archival paper. Also I need to know the exact type of inks or Archival printing process, they are using, for example, refer to my job offer. If I have to pay more, then make the best price that you can. The crate for shipping is fine. And shipping is what it is! But I really appreciate your going through the trouble to work that out.  You are very close, thank you again.

Did you see my comment that I sent with the first re do on queen quinella? I gave you a link to a website that had hiking shorts rather than the underwear she is wearing. Forgive me if I am ignorant, and they are not underwear, But since they look like underwear, I would appreciate you making them hiking shorts.

 

Sent from my iPad

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Jun, 3

Pardon me if I misunderstood. It may be that the second and third paper is archival. forgive me if so.

Peeky

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Jun, 3

Anna Sh

Yes the second option is paper of archival quality and the third is canvas of archival quality. They have paper and canvas of even better quality than what I proposed, but the price is also higher (like $XXX for an A3 paper print and $XXX for a canvas print, can give you more details on those, but I think the price might be too high). And my first option is just a good proposal for high quality art prints with lower price, though not considered to be officially of archival quality, but I thought it still pretty close to what you had with your prior artist as agreed option.

 

I will ask about the ink and printing specifications, think I will receive the answer on Monday as it's weekend already. Not sure what hey hello is.

 

You have not sent me any comments yet I guess, as I have not started with any works so far.

If you think we are close to start our cooperation, I can do a test sketch for you. Just send me the task that is not in progress by other artist yet (I think character development would be the best option to starts with if possible).

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Jun, 3

Peeky

Yes for sure. please continue to seek out lower priced archival.  OK - now lets do a trial.  Pick a scene and a character or two  - a sketch  is fine until we get it  worked out. I am more into very detailed images, not water color...after you pick them out - give me a price and then you can begin.  My real  job is bothersome and two or so days may come before I respond but - no I appreciate your efforts on the prints and that has earned you the right to show your talents. Thank you Peeky

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Jun, 4

Anna Sh

Let's say I can do Jaunty Jack and Flying Monkey character concept (one figure, no background) - $XXX each. For the full scenes let's take "2Overgrown Bantam Village" or "Mice by fireside" - $XXX each.

For the test I did a sketch for Jaunty Jack character, please find attached.

I'll let you know about printing options as soon as I get information.

Jun, 5

Peeky

He looks fine, Anna.  Go ahead and color him and do the monkeys and both the village and mice.  Good job.

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Jun, 6

Anna Sh

Thank you, Peeky! I will proceed with Jaunty Jack, but I would rather not start other works before we agree on our further cooperation. I think it's better to be sure you are ok with the printing options that are available for me here and we will be able to work on the project as you planned.

 

I am waiting for the quote from another printing service now. Their prices for archival prints are a bit lower, but they are in other city, so I should also consider shipping my order to me. I will compare this option with the proposal I gave you before and will let you know. Sorry it takes much time to get all the information, but I do not have many options for archival prints where I am now.

 

Regarding the proposal I already gave you, they use Epson 9 colour printers, using Epson Ultra Chrome inks.

 

Will show you Jaunty Jack in color shortly.

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Jun, 7

Peeky

Tell you what, Anna, can you redo some of Jacks features. I will pay you the amount I paid you the first time.  I like his outfit, his expression is fine, but I want him older, rougher looking, craggy...looking, hair as is, is fine, but longer maybe. Also thicker in body, arms...with arm hair, hands...to look like someone who has been out in the sun and open sky much of his life.  Barefoot also as that is how they function in the story.

Also, thanks for taking the time to find out about the prints. what I need to know is the material - canvas, paper, whatever the mfg is and weight - it should have an advertised or verifiable archival life and the same with the ink - There are different types of Ultra Chrome ink. They may all be archival but since I am no expert, i will research it once I get the details. I am including an article as an example.  Take your time on the prices - no rush! Your care and concern mean the world.  Thank you.

Epson Home > Newsroom Home > Press Releases

New Epson UltraChrome HDX Pigment Ink Technology Delivers the Highest Print Permanence Ratings in History for Epson UltraChrome Inks

All-New Photographic Pigment Inks Featured in Epson SureColor P7000 24-inch and SureColor P9000 44-inch Large-Format Printers Preserves the Legacy of the Print

October 22, 2015

 

Epson America, Inc. today announced another milestone in photographic ink technology and print longevity with preliminary print permanence ratings for its new Epson UltraChrome® HDX pigment ink technology. Featured in the new SureColor® P7000 and SureColor P9000 printers, data accumulated to date indicates that – depending upon the type of paper – the new inks can provide print permanence ratings of up to 200 years for color prints, and likely in excess of 400 years for black and white prints when printed with Epson’s “Advanced Black and White Print Mode.” According to comprehensive tests conducted by Wilhelm Imaging Research, Inc. (WIR), the world’s leading independent permanence testing laboratory, Epson UltraChrome HDX pigment inks can provide up to twice the Display Permanence Ratings of earlier generations of Epson UltraChrome inks with most Epson photo and fine art papers, including the new line of Epson Legacy Fine Art Papers.

 

Peeky

Jun, 7

Anna Sh

Peeky, please find attached new image of Jaunty Jack.

As I already started to work in color, I applied your comments on the colored figure. Did him look older and tougher. And bit bulkier, though maybe I still should do him even bigger... I tried another hairstyle as the previous one looked too cartoony to me when I tried to do it longer. Tell me what you think.

Mind that the work is not finalized, I will make details more accurate when the overall look will be approved.

Jun, 8

Peeky

That is getting there. You are quick Anna.  I would leave off the patches on his outfit. Add hair to his legs and tops of feet to match his arm.  His face looks too young, need more age and weathering.  mIght be easier if you make him thicker over all - your call.

 

Also - his hair. I thought I included this. it is the last sentence in his description - I left it out. You did not know...sorry!!!

 

“His hair is Raggedy Ann red and thick as thin spaghetti,” Dorothy whispered to me with a giggle. Again, Jack boomed. “Al-l-l-l-l-l- a-a-a-board….”

Peeky

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Jun, 10

Anna Sh

Peeky, I did adjustments to Jaunty Jack, but I am not sure what to do with his hairstyle. I saw the description you sent, still do not know how you want it to look like. It would help if you have a reference picture or give me description more about the hairstyle, not only the hair quality.

Please find the picture attached.

Jun, 10

Peeky

The hair is fine; everything else is fine but the head is disproportionately small to thebody and still looks too young -  puff it up a bit and add some years, a bit of fat, even at a cost to the smile. You can change the expression to serious or wise etc. thx

 

Peeky

 

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Jun, 12

Anna Sh

Peeky,

so I finally investigated the printing options I have and I found only two services that work professionally with art printing and can provide prints of archival quality. Please find the proposals for both below.

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PRINTER 1 - based in the same city as I am, so I can directly overview the work and fetch the order. (I give you $XXX per print although before I said $22 for the same paper - sorry, I converted incorrectly last time, my bad)

Their options for our project are:

 

a) - Tecco PM230 Matt Paper 230 gsm - A3 - $23 for each print. Confirmed Archival quality

 

b) - Colour Jet Rembrandt CANVAS (cotton fabric) 380 gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. Not archival certified, but UV resistant, comparable to an archival quality canvas

 

c) - Epson Water-resistant Matte Canvas 375gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. Canvas (65% polyester, 35% cotton) of Archival quality.

 

 They print on Epson 9 colour printers, using Epson Ultra Chrome inks confirmed for Archival quality, 100 year warranty against fading indoors

 

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PRINTER 2 - based in other city, so I am not able to meet them in person and I have to add Courier cost to get the order.

Their options for our project are:

 

a) - Hahnemuhle Fine Art Paper Smooth 305 gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. Archival certified, 150 years warranty against fading under normal indoor lighting conditions. !00% cotton, smooth matte finish.

 

b) - Premium Fine Art Canvas 380gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. 100 year archival warranty. 100% cotton, local production.

 

Prices are lower than at the Printer above, but have to add Courier cost (approximately $130-$150 for each 100 prints order, depending on the weight)

 

They use Ink set Epson Ultra Chrome confirmed for Archival quality, 100 year warranty against fading indoors.

 

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Also as I said before, shipping costs to US going to be approximately about $XXX for 100-200 prints (I say "approximately", because it depends on the weight and packaging, so it is difficult for me to say the precise sum now)

 

Let me know if we can agree on a printing option to go ahead with the project.

 

Now, I have changed Jack's face and proportions, please find attached. It is difficult to make him look much older because of his bright hair color (give him grey hair with this face - and he already looks 60). Tell me what you think.

 

Thank you,

Anna

Jun, 13

Excellent!

Peeky

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Jun, 13

Peeky

 

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Guru.com > wrote:

Thank you Anna, Jack looks great. How far is that other city?  If demand for these is in the hundreds, perhaps it may make sense for me to incur the costs to to put you up there for a day or three and ship directly from there.  (just a thought).  In any event, you have given me choices that I can work with and for this I thank you and please proceed with your sample. I look forward to seeing it.

On the sample scene art - if you can shy away from glossy or shiny, this would be good. Jack's detail is excellent - everything about him is really good. However, the glossy makes me think cartoonish.. check out the art done so far. I might not be describing this well. Please do not take it as an affront.

On another note - you have been the most considerate and conscientious person to work with. Thank you.

 

Peeky

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Jun, 13

Anna Sh

Peeky, thank you! The project feels interesting to me with all those unique characters to draw, so as an artist I am always keen to work on a project that captures my attention.

Well, I stay in Johannesburg and the printer2 is in Cape Town, which is like 1000 km away, flight distance. I checked the flights quickly on skyscanner and now it's about $XXX, so near the same as Courier cost. I don't mind going to Cape Town for a day - lovely city, but not sure if it makes sense.

I do not really understand what you mean by "glossy", but I do see what is the difference between my style and the style you had before. I will try to adjust it and make it look more like the images you gave as references, no problem! Once I get the style right further illustrations will go faster for me.

 

Now, do you have specific demands for the image size? I work with the sample as A3 format (300 dpi), tell me if you want it to be suitable for bigger prints than A3, so I could adjust it now. I did not work bigger for now, because the bigger is size of a picture - the longer it takes to paint.

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Jun, 13

Peeky

Thank you. In my specifications I had some size print requirements. Are those practical in case someone wants larger prints.  I will be offering A-3 as limited edition prints, but if it is not much more money for you to make it larger, I would consider paying.  As I could see some wanting to print scenes to fit size A-2.

Peeky

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Jun, 16

Anna Sh

I will not charge for A2 size more, just let you know that work with the bigger size might take longer.

Please find Jack attached. I did the colors more solid and added the sketchy strokes as on the references - is that close to what you meant?

Also see my thoughts on the flying monkey - I started with a sketch.

Jun, 18

Peeky

Great Job on Jack! You really captured his spirit.

On the Monkey - I love his face. I have to ponder the other parts. But do not let that hold you up on the scene.  things that popped into my  head were the  back feet.

I got lazy and googled it. Primates have five fingers on their hand and five toes on their feet. ... The hands andfeet of all primates, except for humans, are designed for grasping. Humans have hands designed for grasping, but not feet! Humans have opposable thumbs.

Also - I have to think about the tail and maybe check the entire chapter to see if I included more details on the tail but will not be able to dothat  soon.  The wings are good and proportionate.

 

I am not near my computer but did I provide text for a monkey scene where the monkeys were in the tree throwing things at the manticore?  If not that would make a good scene and am doing this to remindme.  thank u.

 

Peeky

 

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Jun, 18

Anna Sh

Peeky, thank you!

Does that mean that Jaunty Jack is approved?

 

Also, let's make it clear - am I still doing the tests or am I already on the project? Because if I knew I am approved for the project, I would start working on other scenes as well and get more engaged in the work.

On the monkey: you are right about the feet, will fix them. I looked through the files you provided and the only descriptions on monkeys I found are:

"The monkey screeched, spread its leathery wings, and dive-bombed the scarecrow".

“Why they’s a cross between monkey, bat, and dragon,”

"The King was a magnificent beast, but that which set him apart was not the sheen of his coat or the fluid motion of liquid-like muscles. It was a large floppy pink bow that rested askew upon his head"

That's all I referred to in my sketch. If you have more descriptions or thoughts on the character - please tell me, I will gladly correct my drawing. (Note: I did a common monkey for now, not the King).

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Jun, 19

Peeky

Jack is approved and you are on the project so go ahead and do a scene or two.  Do not worry about the monkey at this time but I will pay you. I have an idea for a scene later with the monkeys and  you can finalize their look at that time. Welcome aboard!

 

 

 

 

 

Peeky

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Jun, 20

Anna Sh

Peeky, that's good news, thank you!

Will send you scene sketches shortly.

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Jun, 20

Anna Sh

Hi Peeky,

working on Overgrown Bantam Village scene. Description says there should be Jim and Tee-Wa-Kaa on the illustration. I do not know who are they (their characters are not in the provided references) - do you have those characters already done?

The same question about scene with Mice near fire place - I need to know how Jim looks for the scene.

Thank you

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Jun, 20

Peeky

Greetings Anna, Here are some images of Jim.  Since Jim and Tee are looking at the travesty of the devastated village, you might not need to add the character Tee. This will allow more room for details to the scene. However if you need Tee to balance the image then, you will have to create him and I will find a description for him...

 

Peeky

Jun, 22

Anna Sh

Peeky,

I think the scene will do without Tee all right.

Please, find the sketch attached.

Thank you

Jun, 23

Peeky

Greetings Anna. are both images supposed to be in the same? In any event, when I open them they appear to be the same to me?.

When I first looked at one, my thought was, "boy, this is pretty cluttered and really packed with information". But, I think it could really be incredible in color. so, to me your challenge is to really differentiate each character and entity or to possibly give the Jungle a camouflaged effect so that one would have to look for the eyes and signs of danger. maybe vines with DEFORMED or malformed hand or claw or Talon like features reaching 4 The Travelers.

Pardon the poor English please as I am dictating. Please proceed with color.

 

Peeky

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Jun, 23

Anna Sh

Peeky, sorry for the double image - it was the same.

I added lot of details to create this feeling of "invading jungle". But I can clean it a bit if you think it's too cluttered. Here I did a fast color test  (attached). It's really rough, but I hope you will be able to see how it's going to look in color and tell me if the atmosphere of the scene is right.

 

Can I create the invoice for Jaunty Jack? I can send you the final image in good quality and different file types as agreed.

 

Thank you.   vegansvalley_colortest.jpg

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Jun, 23

Peeky

Yes, Anna, please bill me for Jack

With respect to the scene, here are my suggestions. Proceed to color it.

  *   The jungle scene needs to be a little crisper, more detailed to make it look a bit more realistic. When this prints out as an A3, the detail will be important.

  *   Here is a link to images of serpents' eyes. You could do each jungle eye in the scene with more detail and a different color - making them bright and vivid.

  *   Snake Eyes

  *   There is a lot of one color which I will call gray - it is the trees and vines that hold the eyes.  These can be different colors - even try a vivid green and some contrasting flowers or mold or snake eyes.

  *   Perhaps also add some brightly colored flowers. I love the way you captured the fog and the mood with your dark and moldy coloring.  But a bit of color would add some splash...

  *   You did a good job with Jim and Dorothy.  I am attaching a couple images of her face and a facial of the scarecrow. If you could make their faces look more like those - it would be wonderful.

  *   The clothes of Jim and Dorothy should be a bit torn and dirty as they jungle has been harsh on them.

  *   I love the Wolf

You are doing very well. I hope my suggestions are not to discouraging.

 

Peeky

Jun, 24

Anna Sh

Peeky,

I corrected faces of Dorothy and Scarecrow, added some flowers and worked on colors. Please see attached. Hope I got your suggestions right. (I didn't miss the comment about torn clothes, it's just easier to add that on the next stage of work).

Mind that this is still a sketch and the coloring is very rough as now I want to agree on basic drawing and color scheme before I start to finalize. The final drawing will be more accurate and crisp for sure.

 

As I also started to work on the scene with mice, can you send me the image of approved William character please?

 

Looks like I can't bill you here, it says I am not technically hired. So you should hire me or give me some Billing Code... I am new to Guru so do not know how it works here with payments yet, sorry if it will take time for me to figure out.

Jun, 24

Peeky

OK let me type up an agreement as I have to incorporate the limited edition art. I will do that in the next day or two at the most. If you want to bill me by paypal you can if not I will have this done and you can do it thru Guru.  If you turn to the color images that I shared initially with this job offering on Guru - there is a scene with William and Toto hanging beneath him and some human crows.  That is the best pic.

Peeky

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Jun, 26

Peeky

Greetings Anna,

 

If these terms and conditions meet with your approval, You are hired! You will be crafting scenes from an unpublished commemorative trilogy, "The Wizard Was Odd", a Wizard of Oz series written from a unique perspective, Toto's! A multidimensional plot-twister w updated cast of wondrous, quirky misfits.

 

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The Assignment

You shall have the opportunity to craft some characters and scenes from story lines within the manuscripts. Some scenes will require your incorporating some of the existing characters and therefore, you understand and accept that you are not the exclusive artist on this art series project.

Characters and scenes are to be based upon my descriptions and pages from the manuscript that describes the scene to be crafted. I often rely on images from the internet to show the types of facial expressions, posture, and pretty much anything that I can't seem to describe with words.  We will communicate by email as much as possible, but I have no problem communicating by phone also.

I intend to include the scenes that you draft in the first two books of the trilogy, both digitally (epub) and printed.  You will be paid promptly each time you complete a scene and or character.

The scenes will be also offered as limited edition prints if I am successful meeting my monetary goal through a fundraiser utilizing Kickstarter. Kickstarter is a platform where one can go for help from the public to raise money for various projects. My project is printing the first two books of the trilogy. To clarify, your fee will not be dependent upon my Kickstarter success. However, if my Kickstarter fundraiser is a success, you will have an opportunity to make additional revenue by printing, numbering, and signing your scenes as limited edition art which as indicated in your emails will allow me to choose from the following options.  I understand and agree that I am to pay for packaging/mailing/shipping costs of art to me and to you should it come from an area other than where you live. Optionally, I am to pay for travel costs should I elect an option requiring that your traveling to a printer is mutually agreeable.  From your email, I understand that I have the following printing options available to me:

PRINTER 1 - based in the same city as I am, so I can directly overview the work and fetch the order. (I give you $XXX per print although before I said $XXX for the same paper - sorry, I converted incorrectly last time, my bad)

Their options for our project are:

a) - Tecco PM230 Matt Paper 230 gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. Confirmed Archival quality

b) - Colour Jet Rembrandt CANVAS (cotton fabric) 380 gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. Not archival certified, but UV resistant, comparable to an archival quality canvas

c) - Epson Water-resistant Matte Canvas 375gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. Canvas (65% polyester, 35% cotton) of Archival quality.

 They print on Epson 9 colour printers, using Epson Ultra Chrome inks confirmed for Archival quality, 100 year warranty against fading indoors

 

PRINTER 2 - based in other city, so I am not able to meet them in person and I have to add Courier cost to get the order.

Their options for our project are:

a) - Hahnemuhle Fine Art Paper Smooth 305 gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. Archival certified, 150 years warranty against fading under normal indoor lighting conditions. !00% cotton, smooth matte finish.

b) - Premium Fine Art Canvas 380gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. 100 year archival warranty. 100% cotton, local production.

Prices are lower than at the Printer above, but have to add Courier cost (approximately $130-$150 for each 100 prints order, depending on the weight)

They use Ink set Epson Ultra Chrome confirmed for Archival quality, 100 year warranty against fading indoors.

Also as I said before, shipping costs to US going to be approximately about $XXX for 100-200 prints (I say "approximately", because it depends on the weight and packaging, so it is difficult for me to say the precise sum now)

 

Terms and Conditions are in the next message - IF you agree to this message please OK it and also OK the next.  thx.

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Jun, 26

Peeky

Part 2 of the agreement...

 

Other Terms and Conditions.

I am to own unconditionally all drafts and final scenes outright, free and clear, once you are paid.

Each final scene will need to be provided in the following formats, jpeg, tif, and pdf and with a preferred density of 300 dpi or with sufficient pixels (where applicable) to print a pristine image of 24 x 30 inches.

Furthermore, I require that you print each scene revision no smaller than A4 or 8.5 X 11", number it, enter its creation date, and initial/sign it

In addition, to your fee for creating each scene, I will pay $25.00 to cover your cost of printing and first class mailing of all revisions, be it one or ten revisions for each completed scene which need not be printed on archival paper.

You will get credit for your art on my website, WizardWasOdd.com or Oziian.com (Wizard Was Odd Squad) and in any and all digital and printed books. You may write your own bio for Oziian.com and include whatever art you might have created before working with me that you believe might help your career or promote your talents. I reserve the right to edit and restrict the amount of downloads and any art that might be deemed risque or inappropriate for children

 

You understand and agree that I reserve the right to work with multiple artists.

To increase my social media presence in the promotion of my Kickstarter platform, I intend to use our Guru interaction as it pertains to the development and finalization of characters and scenes.  I any fees requested, agreed upon, or paid. This exposure will likely present you with opportunities from others and will allow you to charge accordingly.  Nor will I publish our cost of Giclee prints and your portion if separately stated for signing, numbering, and possibly stamping.  Fees will show as $XXX.

If you are unable to complete the next draft of an image within four days of the date that you estimate, you are to provide me with notice and an estimated completion date. If that is unacceptable to me, I will have the right to re-assign the art to another artist.

If for any reason I am unsatisfied with a preliminary sketch, I reserve that right to cancel or reassign that image and will pay you one quarter of what your final billing for that completed scene would have been.

If I am satisfied with the preliminary, and unsatisfied with the final color scene, then I will pay half of what your final billing for that completed scene would have been. I am not permitted to use your rejected scenes as limited edition art or as images within the  books. If I later do decide to do so, you will be paid the balance of your fees.

You will be paid within ten business days of when I am billed by Guru (seldom if ever will you have to wait this long).

You agree to oversee the printing, signing, and numbering (possibly stamping) the limited edition prints within thirty (30) days of my request.  You understand that the future demand of any limited edition prints come from Kickstarter Patrons from all over the world who have advanced funds to acquire these prints and therefore, you are indirectly working with and have a responsibility to provide the signed art agreed upon to what could be hundreds of international patrons of the arts.

In closing, Anna, I look forward to working with you. Ask any questions and as we work together, if I am slow to respond, feel free to bug me. I shall do my best to be responsive. If this agreement is acceptable, follow up your approval in the next email and I will surely hire you!

 

Peeky

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Jun, 27

Anna Sh

Good day, Peeky.

Thank you for the detailed agreement. I went through it and have several questions before I fully accept it.

 

1. What are the estimated deadlines for the whole project in general? Is there a specific date you want to have all done and finalized. It's just for me to understand my own work plans and occupation.

 

2. I want to mention that in relation to my life circumstances I may (or may not) change my place of living within 6 or 12 months. This may influence my possibilities to work with the same printers as I mentioned to you and I will have to find other options. I state that will do my best to meet all the requirements you have and spend my time to find the best option in this case. This may never happen though, but I think it's fare that I warn you to be on the safe side. This will not influence my ability to work, of course.

 

3. As I am new to Guru, it just occurred to me that the sums I estimated for my work is the actual sums I expect to get. But Guru might charge some % in addition from you - doesn't it? Sorry I do not sure how it works yet. 

 

4. Will I have the right to use approved works in my portfolio before the project is released?

 

All the rest terms and condition are clear to me and I agree to them. Do you want me to sign anything or you will be fine with just my OK?

 

Do you have any preferred way of getting final quality files? I do not posses any secured accounts on fileshares, because usually I use Wetransfer and it works just fine for most of the projects. Tell me if that will work for you.

 

I am finishing the draft for the second scene, plan to show it to you tomorrow. While please comment the VegansValley draft I sent last time.

 

Thank you for appreciation of my art skills and possibility to work with you on the project! Looking forward to our cooperation.

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Jun, 27

Peeky

Greetings Anna, see my comments below

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Jun, 27

Peeky

I am replying to your June 24 email. Proceed with the final draft of  the Vegan Valley scene; Bill me for Jack; attached is a photo of William

Jun, 28

Anna Sh

Good day Peeky,

Guru still says I am not hired here, so I can not create any guru invoice yet.

 

I will work further on the Vegan Valley scene, meanwhile please find attached the sketch for scene with mice in the poppyfield. I am not sure about the Scarecrow and Chip on the background, I like the scene more without them, but I put them in as they are in the story. Tell me what you think.

 

Please, send me your comments regarding my questions on the agreement.

 

Thank you!

Jun, 28

Peeky

In my last email I was answering your questions.  You had clearly stated that you had questions prior to agreeing to the terms. Are the terms acceptable? Did I miss an email?  Of course I will hire and pay you for all you have done, but you asked if your approval by email was OK and I said yes.  Go to Guru if you missed the last email.

Peeky

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Jun, 28

Excellent job, Anna,  w the concept, Dorothy looks great as does William....plus there is room for text in the background. -  I will be adding some text and these will go into the books.  The images without text will be limited edition print.  Great job the first time out too.

Peeky

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Jun, 29

Anna Sh

Peeky, sorry, maybe I am missing something, but I'm checking Guru messages and your message from Jun 28 is just "Greetings Anna, see my comments below" and that's it, so for some reason I cannot see your answer on my massage from Jun 27. And the next massage is your reply to my 24 Jun mail.

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Jun, 29

Peeky

Dear Anna, you r not crazy. the message is not there. So I will ans your questions as follows.

1. Estimated Deadline - two months if possible.

2. I have confidence you will work with me if you move. I understand that it may cost me more money in travel or possibly prints.

3. I have to pay a small fee.  If you are asking me to pay for your portion of their fee, please add that to your current fee and tell me what your fee would be. If you do not intend this, tell me the amount of the fee anyway as I am curious.

4. Yes - remember it is going to be in a blog and available to view on our website.

 

The terms and conditions was covered in two messages because it was too long to fit into one message. If you can go back and open and agree to each, please do that. If not, in your next email, you can just state you approve of the terms set forth in this Guru message stream.

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Jun, 29

Anna Sh

Peeky, thank you!

 

Here I state that I agree to terms and conditions you provided in both your messages from Jun 26.

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Jun, 29

Anna Sh

So, it says that Guru deducts a transaction fee of  8,95% from the amount paid for each invoice for me.

Now as I am billing you for Jaunty Jack concept, I am not going to add any fee for you as I do not feel like changing the price after the work was done as agreed.

But for my further artworks I would prefer to get the amounts I named in full ($XXX for character concept and $XXX for full scene) if possible. Which means I would charge you $XXX and $XXX accordingly. Tell me if that is acceptable for you, because I understand that it is my fault I didn't check all the conditions before.

 

Now I have created the invoice for Jaunty Jack, hope I did it right...

I can send you the final files for Jack: jpeg, tif, pdf. Tell me which way is preferable for you and if Wetransfer fileshare is ok (it's not secured, but I have never had any troubles with it before). Or if you prefer other tools for sharing big files - let me know.

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Jun, 30

Peeky

I am unable to answer dad  today, but those adjusted prices are fine. Tonight I will make payment whether it is right or wrong and we can just move forward. Thank you

 

Expect delays, out of the office,  when responses are sent from my iPhone-

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Jun, 30

Peeky

Thank you Anna, I look forward to it!

 

Peeky

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Jul, 2

Anna Sh

Peeky,

I received the payment, thank you!

 

Please find the link for final files for Jaunty Jack concept below (the link will be valid for 7 days from now):

https://we.tl/RVjsINd75F

Working on Vagans Valley finalization. Plan to send you the scene by Thuesday.

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Jul, 4

Anna Sh

Good day, Peeky

Please find attached Vegans Valley scene.

About scene with mice: what is the time of day when they are sitting at the fire? It is important for color scheme.

 

Thank you.

Jul, 4

Peeky

Good Question, Anna.  An image lit by fire and sunset could really produce a "Wow Factor" if your talents are up to it.  I think if it were any darker than dusk, it would be hard to portray the more distant parts of the scene.  You will likely be a better judge of this part of the setting.

 

I look forward to checking out the "valley" when I get back to my computer

 

from my iPhone...

 

Peeky

 

 

 

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Jul, 5

Peeky

It looks GREAT!  Finish it as is. Congrats.

Peeky

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Jul, 6

Anna Sh

Peeky,

thank you, I'm glad you liked it! I will clean the Vegans Valley a bit and show you the final shortly.

 

So far please look at the rough color test for the scene with mice. I also think it's better to be dusk - so we could see all the scene and at the same time feel the warms of the bonfire. Tell me if you like the atmosphere as it is now, so I could proceed with details.

Also as I am personally worried about girls sitting on the ground, I gave Dorothy a blanket to sit on. But I'm not sure if that fits the story and if they can travel with a blanket :)

Jul, 6

Peeky

Greetings Anna,

In the scene, there is density. Density of poppies, carpets of poppies - so I would like detailed flowers close up blending into a carpets of color in the ever darkening background. Please mimimize the sky as most of the background could be poppy carpets of various colors. the word file provided has a link to poppy colors and poppy fields.  Going this way, the carpets of poppy could fade off into the sunset.  and the density of the mice could surround Jim and Dorothy and extend to scare crow and chip chopper.

There are also density of mice. Mice everywhere - not sporatic mice - so there needs to be mice all around the queen and there could be a milling of mice waiting their turn at the milk trough.

I think it should be a bit darker, more dusk

 

Description

shoulders – there is clear comfort and ease between the comrades and mice.  All of this takes place in a field of poppies and the poppies are of all colors and shades. (at the end of this I have a section on poppies and their color variations for your information.  I would like the brilliance of the poppies and the color range of the campfire to add warmth, a sense of peace, and coziness to the scene.  The poppies, however, can’t be too close to the comrades by the fireside except scare crow and Chip (tin man) as explained above.

, and giving Chip Chopper a good hour to prepare a monument so naming the site, we started along the grassy bank in the direction of the road. Plenty of flowers, fruit trees, and sunshine warmed our hearts and lightened our spirits.

For miles, we listened to the singing of brightly colored birds and admired the striking deep and varied hues of the flowers, which carpeted the ground. Most amazing were the clusters of scarlet poppies. Now and again, streams of sunlight splashed between the canopy’s boughs and poured upon the poppies, dazzling our eyes with ripples of scarlet and gold.

 

Peeky

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Jul, 7

Anna Sh

Hello Peeky,

ok, got it. Will apply your comments.

 

Please find the finalized work for Vegans Valley for approval attached.

 

Thank you.

Jul, 7

Peeky

The Vegan scene looks great - wrap it up.  I might suggest you consider the overgrown Bantam Village - file attached.  this would be a broad landscape scene and the characters would be small.  This scene takes place toward the end of the valley.

 

Peeky

Jul, 8

Anna Sh

Peeky,

I'm a bit confused, The Vegan scene actually is the Overgrown Bantam Village scene. Sorry for the confusion in naming.

Two scenes I took from the beginning were 2Overgrovn Bantam Village and Mice by fire side - those two I am working on now.

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Jul, 9

Peeky

What you have done is fine, Anna. You will be fully paid.

Peeky

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Jul, 10

Anna Sh

Peeky, sorry for the delay with the Mice scene. Those mice and flowers took time - a lot of small details. Plan to finish and send you the scene tomorrow.

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Jul, 11

Anna Sh

Greetings Peeky,

please find attached the scene with Mice by fire side. I made the scene darker and added more mice. I can add more, but as they are small, I'm afraid they might start to look like a furry mess.

 

I can start to work on next scenes\concepts. For example I can proceed with Flying Monkey or start something new: let's say, 2Firewalker or 2The snizzle of social sizzle or 2Wizard memories scene. I am just not sure what tasks are free and what are already taken by other artist.

Let me know.

 

Thank you.

Jul, 11

Peeky

Greetings Anna, This is very nice. It looks good.  I may have mentioned it and if not so be it, but on some of the images I would like text added.  So on this one, I would like one set with text and one set without. I will pay extra for your extra work.  Below, in green is the text I would like. If it is too much for the image, then I will shorten the verse. The images with the text will go in the books.   What I am thinking is that where you have sky, if you have a tree canopies on each end of the sky and text in the middle of the sky - that would work.  If you have some placement of text, please proceed. The body of Chip Chopper is fine, but he needs a face lift. I include an image as a guide. I will pick an image for you by tomorrow.

Queen Mouse continued in singsong verse, quoting ancient lore as handed down by the Royal Librarians.

“What shall keep man from picking the beautiful flowers, parroted the Queen of Camembert. What shall keep the beasts from digging us from our burrows?The perfume of the poppies will protect you, said the Good Witch. The sweetness of its scent shall bring you happiness. All mice shall be free in spirit and light of heart. All others, man and beast shall yearn heartily for sleep. Heavy shall be the price paid by those who trespass. Those who ignore their weary eyes and remain within Camembert will drop midstride, and eternal sleep shall befall them.”

 

Peeky

Jul, 11

Peeky

One more question...is there anyway you can think of to make Queen Mouse stand out a little more? Her clothes and appearance are darling - no changing that.

The only thing I can think of is to move the rock to the other side of the fire but that might be too extensive a change.

The other thing may be to remove some of the poppies that show up immediately behind her?

 

You did a really fine job and I really appreciate it.

 

Peeky

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Jul, 11

Peeky

Anna, You did a great job on the wolf so here is a scene with wolves. PS - I have not given but one other image to another so you are way ahead of the game.

If you want to try your hand at drawing a wizard. I have had numerous attempts but I do not like their faces. I can't say why.  There are three scenes that use the wizard. In the Memory Wizard he is very angry.  He is also angry in the "proclamation of the Wizard"  So the same face would work in both places. The different faces that I am sharing are ones that I tried to use on the cover of the third book but was not happy with and so the wizard remains unfinished.

I like the expressions of the people creatures that are not the wizard, I guess the goal is anger - hatred - smoldering, vivid rage...

Lets see what what you come up with and I will pay you whether I use it or not....

 

Peeky

Jul, 11

Anna Sh

Peeky,

So you want to get the same image in two options - with text and without text? No problem, I'll add the text.

Do you have a preferable font and color for the text, or a font reference? Or maybe an approved image with text you did before?

The text looks too big indeed, but let me first try to fit it on the picture as it is, to see how much it should be shortened.

 

I'll fix the Chip's face.

 

Moving the Queen Mouse would be problematic as all other characters depends on her position. But I can think of changing the lighting on her and her background - that should help.

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Jul, 11

Anna Sh

Peeky, you said "here is a scene with wolves", but no wolfy file attached. Love drawing animals, so gladly will do a wolf scene.

 

The Wizard challenge accepted! Do you need a full character concept for the Wizard? Or you want me to try just a face for now?

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Jul, 12

Peeky

I am attaching other images with text style. Good Idea.

 

Leave the characters the same...I was thinking maybe even a glow around the queen...but removing flowers from behind her and leaving plain grass would make her stand out more.

Peeky

 

 0915 Kiss of the Witch.jpg

 

Jul, 12

Peeky

Start with the face. Wolf attached. Thx Anna!

Peeky

 2Greeted by Wolves.docx

 

Jul, 12

Anna Sh

Peeky,

so I fixed Chip's face and made the Queen Mouse more vivid.

I also added background trees and text in between.

I put the whole text in as large font as possible to fit it on the sky. It seems readable enough, but it will depend on the page size. Looks fine for A4 page to me, but not sure about smaller size.

I found the same font as you had before, but tried it in two options - light and dark. Tell me which you like better.

So please find attached 3 images: no text, light text, dark text.

 

Thank you!

 

Jul, 12

Great job bringing out the queen.  I like the dark text...wrap it up - great job and timing!   Peeky

 

Jul, 12

Anna Sh

Thank you!

So if the Vegans Valley and Mice scenes approved - can I create an invoice for both? As agreed previously I will charge $XXX for each.

I will not charge additional for adding text as that did not lead to any changes to the initial artwork, so it didn't take much time to do. I'll send you the whole range of file types, both - with text and without.

 

Jul, 12

Peeky

You did a good job - make it out for $XXX each.   Thx Peeky

 

Jul, 12

Anna Sh

Peeky, thank you so much!

I am really appreciate it and so glad you like my works!

 

Jul, 14

Anna Sh

Peeky, here is the link to final files for Overgrown Bantam Village and Mice by fire side scenes:

 

https://we.tl/PJNNTpgIJg

 

As the previous one, this link will be valid for one week from now.

Thank you.

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Jul, 15

Peeky

Thank you Anna, they downloaded fine.

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Jul, 15

Anna Sh

Greetings Peeky.

Please find attached my sketches for the Wizard.

I sketched him as "normal" first to imagine the character and then tried the angry faces.

Jul, 15

Peeky

Greetings Anna,

 

These are great drawings. And definitely would have a following in in comics and animation.  The style I am looking for are scenes and characters that appear to be drawn - sketched from reality.  Take a look at the wizard faces I am attaching.  These look like  they could be drawings real people.  The same with the faces of the munchkins. You can try some more if you like or think about it and go on to the wolf scene. It is your call.

 

Peeky

7 hrs ago

Anna Sh

Peeky, I see what you mean. I'll try to get closer to the referenced style. Please see new sketch attached.

I am also working on the wolf scene.

6 hrs ago

Peeky

You certainly have the talent, Anna! That is no longer comic or anime,  but a sketch of a person.  Some bulging eyes and other artful touch - maybe some body lanquage and I am hoping you can capture his rage in the Wizard Memory scene.  If you have that scene, perhaps after the wolf scene...I have some posturing ideas that may help...but clearly I am not the artist. Thank you for hanging in there.

Peeky

 

 

Jul, 19 Anna Sh

 

Peeky, Sure, I will try the Wizard Memory scene, I have the text file for it. Please find attached the Greeted by Wolves sketch. Thank you!

 

 

Jul, 19 Peeky

 

wow! And this is excellent on this is excellent! now, do not beat me with a stick. I did not present this seem well to you. I would like you to bill me for your work thus far. we may go back to the scene, but probably not, which is my fault, which is why I want to pay you for what you have done. Now I am going to tell you how I want the scene laid out.

It takes place at Dawn. Toto and Jim and T are sleeping in a big cave like Amphitheater it has Ledges and crevices and multi-dimensional Rock structures where you can place wolves. Toto awakens and Dawn is just peeping Over the Horizon. Toto Sees glowing eyes on the various ledges and structures within this cave-like amphitheater. Parts of this setting will be dark as the sun's rays have not reached the wolves - these wolves - perhaps only their eyes will show. Others, could be a a faint outline while those getting more sunlight will have more substance. Now note the text from the scene. Somehow I left out a key paragraph. Read below and you will see a large wolf walking ahead of the other three. Thise could be at the entry of the amphitheatre. and well lite by sun...the manticore should be larger than the wolf and the head wolf larger than the other two. This should be a landscape scene with a lot of territory rather than the close up that it is now.

Recall - the one side of the amphitheatre is open air where they landed and this wide area is behind them and where the sun is providing light. The cave-like amphitheater surrounds them and the three wolves approach from an entry into the amphitheater.

You did a fine job on the characters and wolves - better than fine so I know this will be fantastic. Sorry again - bill me.

Details of the scene That night we slept beneath rock ledges. It just felt safer. As my eyes popped open at first light, I was greeted by the fiery horizon far to the east.
I stood, shook out the kinks, stretched, and froze. Everywhere in this great amphitheater of staggering cliffs, pocks, and pockets, pairs of eyes glowed. Countless eyes, wide and unblinking stared at me. Golden and red, they drew their color from the light of the rising sun.
Nudging Jim, “Hush,” I whispered sharply as he moved to stretch. “Do not move.”
Jim had good sense and looked about slowly and cautiously. “Mother of Pearl, what in the name of Hades is sett’n its eyes upon us,” he whispered.
Tee heard us, and then Dorothy.
Dorothy sat up abruptly and said, “What are they?”
As if staged, the scudding clouds that blocked the new day sun, stepped aside, unveiling the owners of those onerous eyes. Each set belonged to a wolf. From dark corners, shadowy ledges, and obscure pocks and pockets, big dark wolves surrounded us and the gorge behind us, cut us off from any possible retreat. I sat before my trembling legs collapsed from fear.
Dorothy gasped. Three great wolves approached slowly. The center one walked six hands ahead of the other two that flanked it. As they approached us boldly and in silent grace, my life raced before my eyes. Jack was at least two clicks out and we had no way to reach him. Therefore, we must choose between jumping into the Gorge or being ripped to pieces and eaten alive. With moistened eyes, I turned to Dorothy. How I loved her, her smile, bright brown eyes, and I wondered why the Kiss of the Northern Witch did not glow.

 

Peeky

 

 

Anna Sh

 

Peeky, Ok, I will likely bill half a price for the scene I sent as I struggled a bit with the composition and that took time. But let's first discuss the scene as you see it, so I can fully understand what you need, cos it seems the scene looks different in my head.

 

First of all, can you sent me a reference of what you mean by cave-like amphitheater? Because I can think of several types of landscapes that match the description. It would really help if you could show me the type of caves you think about.

 

The Dawn - in my plan the lighting and coloring supposed to be something like on the referenced pics (see attached), it's just difficult to represent in sketch. Was it the right thinking? Or the rising sun should be from the other side, so we actually do not see the sun, only it's light on the scene from foreground?

 

Did I understand it right now - !and that is very important! - the characters face us and the rising sun is behind their backs, while approaching three wolves are standing their backs to the camera?

 

Who exactly should be on the scene (except wolves) - Toto, Manticore, Jim. I believe Dorothy as well. But is there also Tee (remember, I have very vague idea who he is)?

 

About "landscape scene with a lot of territory". Well, that's how I tried to do it from the beginning, but didn't like it for several reasons:

 

- first of all, as I understand from the text that going to be on the image, the illustration is about actions of Manticore and Toto, who kinda stand up to the wolves. The problem here is that Toto is so small, that if we zoom out to show the landscape, Toto appears to be hardly indentifyable there among other large characters. I hate this because I feel like the whole scene is about him.

 

- when I zoom out to show the scene in general, it looses the "spookiness" of the moment as we are not into the scene, but looking from aside if you understand what I mean. Though this issue I can try to fix with dramatic lighting or something. Still, if you want it to be broader landscape, not close up, I will definitely try to do my best.

 

Manticore is iron, got it.

 

I will start the Wizard Memory scene so far to work parallel on both.

 

 

 

 

 

Jul, 20 Peeky

 

I will get back with you on this. Your billing is fine. I will try to ans today, late

 

Peeky

 

Jul, 21 Peeky

 

good evening Anna I hope all is well. very good questions and hopefully I can answer them well enough not to waste anymore of your time. I have included a picture of a cavern with an opening that is similar to what I am shooting for. The three wolves would be coming through the opening toward the characters. The gorge would be behind them which is where the dawn is coming through.

 

I have included two other images of cave Interiors that are multi level and very uneven-irregular which allow for wolves to perch and partly hide behind. This will also provide a multi-dimensional setting where eyes could appear from various levels within the cavern.

 

I love the sunrise in the image you sent...you really make me think...it hurts to think this much... To capture the sunrise, part of the cavern, the hiding wolves, the characters, and the approaching wolves what do you think about this.

 

Say the viewer or audience is viewing the scene from one side of the cavern. They can see the sunrise on one side lighting up the cavern, v various wolves hiding on the one side of the cavern, toto, Jim, and the manticore toward the center of the scene and the three wolves approaching toward the manticore. I suppose if you show all of this you also have to show Dorothy and Tee. I am attaching an image of Tee

 

In this scene, we need no text.Here is a description of the area where the sun would be coming through... so the area they land is the wide part of the amphitheater where the sun comes in and it narrows where the wolves come in

 

Background….from the back of a jumberello the comrades and their captain are looking for a place to disembark - an opening in a sheer mountainous wall of granite. They land in a large half-dome shaped opening in the side of this sheer mountain. So the area behind them is a fast opening that drops into a gorge and from the inside of this dome-like cave, looking back, all one can see is open sky, distant mountains, and jumberello. The portions of the story detail the appearance of the cave. The characters that you might choose to show are Jim, Dorothy, Toto, and the Manticore. I can provide an image of the manticore I needed. What we want here is a spooky scene of the comrades awakening to eyes and shadowy ghostly images of wolves. There are to be two scenes. One with text and one without. The one with uses the yellow highlight at the end of this document

 

Peeky