Scene 6: The making by Ruslan -  19th September 2017

Firewalker Bugs Sketching Part 2 by OnDrawnWings - 19th September 2017

Monkey Scene, Firewalker, Gobble and Chicken Scene by Anna Sh - 18th September 2017

"The Snizzle of Social Sizzle" by Ruslan - 11th September 2017

Lion, Toto and Scarecrow Detailing by Anna Sh - 11th September 2017

Firewalker Bugs Sketching by OnDrawnWings - 11th September 2017

Monkey Scene Sketch by Anna Sh - 7th September 2017

Jack Musical Scene With Color by Ruslan - 5th of September 2017

The Lion by OnDrawnWings - 5th September 2017

Uncle Henry and Jack Scene by Ruslan - 3rd September 2017

Monkey Scene by Anna Sh - Sept. 5, 2017

OnDrawnWings 4th September 2017

Proclamation & Uncle Henry Scene by Ruslan - Sept. 1 & 2, 2017

Watercolor Fountain by Anna Sh - Aug 25 to Sep 1, 2017

Kickstarter by OnDrawnWings - Aug 31 to Sep 2, 2017

Jumberello, Uncle Henry & Proclamation Scene by Ruslan - August 2017

Ruslan Dialog - July 2017

Dorothy's Face by OnDrawnWings - 21st August 2017

Anna Dialog - July to Aug 2017

Advance Sketch by OnDrawnWings - 19th August 2017

A disagreement that turned to a purposeful agreement.

Preliminaries

OnDrawnWings

 

Sorry if I came off a little harshly,

 

A couple things I should have explained:

 

I think you mentioned that you didn't understand this comment from me: "PSSS__Please remember that I *don't* work directly from my hand-drawn sketches, rather, I sculpt 3D pieces BASED ON those visual and mental notes. Once roughs are approved, you will have another chance to weigh in on a preliminary." - 7/27/17

 

That means that we are truly only in a preliminary "Phase 0" (rough thumbnails) and you will get to weigh in on the actual sketch in its true form. (the best thing to say here is that "when you see what I mean, I think you'll totally understand.") I'm going to go out on a limb and say that you might even like this process once you see how I work it, because you'll still get to help me make it right in the next phase. The roughs are just the "idea." It does honestly take a lot of time and thinking just to get to this starting block., for now, I am going to concentrate on the two sketches that exist thus far, and that you have greenlit for the next phase.

 

Dorothy & the Manticore:

To that end, I have a scene sample from you where there is a cybernetic-looking manticore fighting a reptilian monster across a fallen tree. Is that the Lion, as a Manticore? May I please have the description of the Manticore as originally described in your story? (I always feel better if I have the author's original description)

 

The Bantam Village:

Tricky scene. Imo, truth be told, we don't want to graphically depict a "husked" (some of your description, which is good, scary stuff) baby girl but maybe a slightly older (age 4-ish) little girl in a tattered dress and (again, this is my opinion) we want the viewer to have to look closely at it to tell what it is, because the essence and eventually the liquids were drained out. Therein lies the horror--"Oh, that's a freaking little girl in the vine!" That's what we want people to say.

 

As for my style clashing:

It will stick out, thus far. But actually it wouldn't be a bad thing to have lighter, more sketchy color work, like what I've seen so far from your samples, and then, BAM! A handful of very detailed pieces. I will keep in mind that you want Middle-grade to consider reading this. I get hired a lot for Middle-grade work, and to me that means keeping the colors a little brighter.

 

Cool, I will keep going on those two scenes for now,

 

And we can both see how things go, and if you like it,

 

~Ryan

 

PS__I am without my workstation until tomorrow, sadly, as Frys is still troubleshooting the problem. Please adjust the schedule a tad to account, and accept my apologies. No one hates this ongoing saga with my new work station as much as I do.

 

Peeky

 

Greetings Ryan,

 

Descriptive Text  (you made me realize that I needed to doctor it up...which I did...

 

Good Luck with the computer...they and their Foster Parents, Technology are more frustrating than women....

 

 In that instant, there came from the forest a terrible roar and a fierce lion-like creature bounded onto the road. With one swipe of his paw, he sent Scrobins spinning. In the flip of a flea, the lion-beast then struck the leg of the Woodman with extended claws. Though his blow caused no harm to the metal woodman, the creature struck with such force that the Woodman fell to the road and struggled to regain his footing.

 

Instinct thrust me from the sling. With a deep growl, I curled my lips back, and gnashing my buckteeth, I waddled swiftly between the huge cat and Dorothy. This was no ordinary Kansas barnyard brawler; this was a super kitty. With a thunderous snarl, it curled its lips from its teeth. As I stared into a mouth large enough for me to nap in, the raging beast charged.

 

What Kind of Cat is That or The Cowardly ????

 

 If not for William, distracting the brutal beast with an earsplitting bellow, I’d have been cat food.

 

While I backed up at light speed. My dear and brave Dorothy, fearful of my safety, and heedless of danger, rushed forward.

 

With a mighty slap at the nose of the beast, Dorothy screamed in its fearsome face, “No one messes with my dog…or shoes! Don't you dare to bite Toto! You ought to be ashamed of yourself, a massive beast like you, harming my friends and going after my poor little dog!"

 

William snorted. With a nudge of her head, she shoved Dorothy from danger and faced this magnificent cat-like creature. With a lowered head, the threat of William’s horns was great.

 

"I didn't bite him," it replied with wide wild eyes as it licked and pawed gingerly at its nose. “My, impressive horns you have there.” After a brief hesitation and a curious cock of its head at William, it continued. “I should like to know the difference between my teeth and your horns.”

 

“I can assure you that the difference is subtle. Pounce, if your curiosity outweighs your common sense,” William replied.

 

The creature dropped its gaze. Then looked up slightly. With hangdog eyes, and a downturned mouth, the beast almost whined as it spoke. “I have no desire to fight; I make terrible and frightening noises, but my heart is cowardly.”

 

Dorothy stepped in front of William and thumped the great creature on the nose again. “You are a coward at that,” she said…, “striking a stuffed man too, the poor scarecrow!"

 

With a shake of his great mane, his beautiful amber eyes narrowed as he watched Dorothy set Scrobins upon his feet. With its voice filled with amazement, “He’s stuffed…and, I see that I knocked the stuffing out of him.”

 

While Dorothy tucked straw, poked, and prodded Scrobins back into shape again, she replied with fiery eyes. “Of course, he's stuffed!"

 

“Well,” said Scrobins, “that was not one of my funnier falls.”.

 

"I’m not sure what I find more amazing, you stuffed with straw or your ability to speak. Is the other one stuffed also?"

 

"No," said Dorothy, "like you apparently, he's made of metal and is a mighty woodman, but his great weight makes him clumsy. I’m not strong enough to help you up, Woodman."

 

With a deep bow to the creature, Scrobins introduced himself and asked, “You appear to be of feline origin - you are a cat of some sort…aren’t you?"

 

“I am a male manticore in my prime.” The creature rippled his coat, fluffed his mane, and raised what appeared to be undersized wings as if to prove the point.

 

William ambled to the downed Woodman, “Take my horn, and not with your snipper, and I’ll pull you upright. Chip released his ax and gripped one of William’s horns. She lifted her head which easily righted the Woodman.

 

"That's why the woodman nearly blunted my claws," said the beast. "When my nails scratched against the metal, it made a cold shiver run down my back. What’s that little black creature you’re so fond of?"

 

"He’s my dog, Toto," answered Dorothy.

 

"Is he made of metal, or stuffed?" asked this strange miscreant.

 

 “What I am made of is none of your business,” I raged ferociously and advanced toward the brute, determined to show my authority. “But if you must know, it’s meanness. Pure meanness is the substance from which I’m made. I’m Mr. Toto, leader of this group, and Mr. Toto is the only name that you may call me.”

 

Dorothy over talked me. "Neither metal nor straw, Toto is a hothead and unique throughout the great state of Kansas. With those cute little bottom buckteeth, and dirty mop of a hairdo, Uncle Henry says there’s nothing scarier than Toto the terrier!”

 

Dorothy then shook her head and with a short smile, said, “Toto, what am I to do with you? Sometimes I worry that you’ve more bark than brains. Perhaps you need more than gizzards when you visit the wizard.”

 

Image of Manitcore... and yes it once was a lion or "the Lion".

 

Peeky

 

 

 

 

 

Peeky

 

Do the two scenes keeping in mind my objectives as well as you can.

 

The scenes created thus far were directed by me and have the characters as I desired them - so that art is likely more reflective of my tastes than not.  Also, I envisioned the art as being desirable for younger aged persons as well because the book can be enjoyed by middle grade up.

 

So proceed. I will not interfere. I do want things to look realistic though - Dorothy did not look realistic - her pose appeared artificial because in the story she was not unconscious as she mounted  the lion.  Perhaps, you could make her look exhausted....

 

I could not tell the plant was eating the baby without really studying it and  in the  story the baby was hanging there as a husk - the plants do not eat people they drain their life force and fluids.

 

In any event - proceed.  I have made many a mistake in life - the current direction of my art could surely be one.

 

Peeky

 

Peeky

 

hello Ryan how are you today? I suppose the first thing I need to tell you is that I thought I got rid of all the text that referred to lion and replaced it with manticore, image attached. I think I plucked the chapter from an old version. So I will check my final version and make those corrections, but otherwise and I very much welcome any corrections that you managed to catch, thank you very much! I am in the process now of doing that kind of proofing and am amazed at how much time I have spent and how long it has taken and I am only up to page 200.

 

on another note, I like the scene with Dorothy better than I like the other. The lion is really quite excellent by the way and expect you might could use your drawings fine face in the manitocore's body. However, there are a number of issues with this scene...Text Follows:

 

She is not unconscious

 

Her posture is not natural if she were unconscious which she isn't

 

She is seated, not lying

 

I would show her with severely damaged clothing, partly exposed back.

 

The manitcore should look vicious, scared, defensive, something other than smiling/relaxed.

 

I would consider going with this scene, but would like to see Jim being nudged by the Lion, Dorothy turning back to talk to him and Toto being carried by the scruff I guess the wolf has him.

 

Also, the characters would have to look like our existing characters

 

The scene would need to be more of a drawing of their surroundings...which it is pretty close compared to the bantam scene.

 

Regarding the Bantam Scene

 

It is too abstract and will be totally inconsistent with the current scenes and those under construction.

 

(I understand this is a draft - however )The characters will need to look like the existing characters

 

 I would like this scene to be created as it is seen in the eyes of the characters who pass by the caves as if they were to take a snapshot of what they see.

 

I hope this helps. I am attaching characters as an fyi

 

“Ouch…let go of me,” she cried. “I am a mess…where is my make up?” Dorothy giggled and sat up. The Lion stopped pulling her and looked about for spines tearing through the Valley floor.

 

 “Climb onto my back now,” growled the Lion.

 

“Yes sir,” she said with a salute. “You sir, are a real drag.”

 

As Dorothy mounted the Lion, a couple of the wolves bared their teeth, snarled, and after a few nips at Jim’s bottom, managed to persuade him to join us.

 

Jim wobbled as he walked and rubbed his eyes. “I git it…I git it…back off or I be making rugs of ye when I’m a feel’n better.”

 

Traveling was not easy for me. I hung by my scruff, and swung like a pendulum. Seasick, I longed for William’s saddle. The thought of her made me sad and helped to sober me up.

 

After a bit, Dorothy looked down from the back of the Lion and said, “Look at me. My clothes are worthless.” She wrapped herself as well as she could with her shredded shirt.

 

“I am filthy. My back is a trough of scratches, each filled in with forest floor gunk. Dorothy folded her arms across her chest and with a grimace said, “Jim Johnson, have you no decency? Quit staring at me.”

 

“But you just said…for me to look!”

 

“Jim,” she cried. “You just need to be quiet and keep your eyes to yourself.”

 

“Take my shirt,” Jim said as he removed it. He kept his eyes to the ground as he waved it about.

 

“Put your shirt back on…”

 

Before Dorothy could finish, a wolf snatched it from Jim’s hand and trotted it to her. With a deep sigh, she shook it out, sniffed it, and said, “This is really a sweet thing for you to do Jim.”

 

Peeky

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peeky

 

OK - I am not sure what this means but if I misunderstood something, it is just that. I intend no offence with my comments.

 

Peeky

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Hi Peeky,

 

OK, let's proceed slowly, because I don't want you to get the wrong idea at all. Please read my response with a polite tone, and I am not wishing to come off rudely or in a stand-offish manner in any way:

 

In response to the characters looking like what you have already: I will absolutely try my best, (match the shirts / clothing that you want / faces & builds as best as I can possibly do) but my medium is vastly different than the flat-ish, less-detailed comic-panel-esque paintings you have so far. In no way do I mean this rudely, but what I do is far more time intensive and more highly refined and finished than what you have thus far. My samples show this. The work comes out of me per the artist that I am, and I can only tilt it a little bit, try as I might.

 

In response to the scene looking "too abstract" compared to what you have already: This critique is hard to fathom for me. Compared to the scenes that I've seen, or others that I haven't seen that are in the works? I am a bit puzzled, because you gave me a large swath of the story (even before I asked for the whole shebang) and I have responded with my professional instincts. You asked me to encompass "the horror" and I chose the vine consuming the little girl. The "snakelike" shape of that vine makes it the best candidate for a dynamic print that people might actually want to own. Those round archways (blue pencil) are Bantam cave entrances, described as "ornate." All of this exists in the scene that you wrote, and is not abstract, but used for a "lyrical" and flowing composition. So, I will need exact direction if this scene isn't right for you. Which passage over this one do you want? (plus, see below about isolating elements--especially for horror)

 

Before we go any further, I gotta level with you about the pre-existing art work. I only have seen what you've sent thus far, but, it's not highly finished. It's not art that will be an easy sell for limited edition prints. The work has to be fully realized and "iconic." I don't believe in stuffing in a bunch of characters into a scene, just because they appear in the passage. *What makes a precise translation from text to art, is not necessarily what makes good art. It's better to freeze the moment between Dorothy and the Manticore alone, because it's very stark and "iconic." There are plenty of pages / illustrations with which to show the other characters. There is a "direction disease" we artists talk about, called "Everything-And-The-Kitchen-Sink--itus." It's a well-known misstep that authors and green directors try to shove in too many elements, per scene, just because they exist in the writing. Never be "literal" with your passages vs. your art. Let the art have its own life and breathe, and be the best that it can be.

 

If you can trust my 23 year, + 4 year degree illustration experience and multiple awards, then I will deliver artwork that is far better than what you have.

 

So, if we move on, if you want the Manticore piece, to maybe be our first, I can add a large wolf to the left side, holding Toto (and please picture a lot of mist around the ground), but I'd rather not add in Jim, here, as him being pushed by the Manticore changes the tone from ominous to somewhat comical. I think that scene is about "ominous" in total, no? There are plenty of scenes in your writing with which to depict the characters being comical.

 

As for the Tinman in the Valley scenes, I don't recall any dialogue or presence from him there? I am hype to depict him, if he is prominent for a scene, but I don't see him in these, per the illustrations.

 

You wore me out a bit, with the stipulations added to the contract, Peeky, but I never minded that you simply wanted clearer terms. But, I was assured that I would be "able to do my thing" as an illustrator.

 

If this is not the case, and you aim to wear me out the entire time, then my worst concerns are coming to fruition, and we should talk about dissolving the agreement. As per what I've seen so far, I have no doubt that my work would outsell any other prints, 3-1. I know it sounds arrogant, but it's just that I've been doing this a long time. I have an 8K and a 9K children's book slated ahead, and I guarantee that your other artists are not that much in demand. Do you want to allow me to give you some awesome work, or do you want to pick it apart and make it cluttered or literal?

 

When I agreed to make changes / revisions, I wasn't expecting them to be about micromanaging my base instincts. I was expecting "change the shirt color a bit here" or "tweak her nose there," etc.

 

Unless there are some awesome bits of work that I haven't seen, I'd say I am kinda your headliner. If you want me to lift this project up a bit, I would be happy to produce your best art work, but you've got to let me do my thing , so it is good.

 

What do you think?

 

Do we have any chance of working together?

 

 ~Ryan

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Hi Peeky,

 

I've been working on your roughs a lot. I read all the pages about the Valley, twice. 'Very cool.

 

As an illustrator, I mostly pride myself on two things: One, on dynamic compositions, which come naturally to me, thankfully...And, two, on being able to suss out what passages need an art piece the most. To that end, I was hit by the image you wrote, of Dorothy slung over the back of the Lion. (I don't know the description of the Lion, incidentally, so I just drew a big lion)...But it was a strong reaction and it would make a strong illustration / desirable print, so, even though I have not been commissioned for it, I included it as a sketch, perhaps as a suggestion to hire me for that? If you warm to this idea, maybe we could add it on while I tackle the Valley work, so it's all fresh in my mind while I would do both.

 

If not, that's fine, too.

 

Also attached is my other strong scene instinct, the Bantam Village abandoned cave entrances, with the larger, snakelike vine eating the child head-first. We need to have a chat about what, precisely, Dorothy would be wearing at that point, after she changes at the pond, and if Jim took his shirt back?

 

I will now finish the Firewalkers sketches!

 

Thanks,

 

~Ryan

 

PS__If you want any help with grammar or small mistakes in the writing, I found a few minor ones.

 

PSS__*Per the ordeal with my new PC, Frys has advised me to swap in the same motherboard, to replace the current one that refuses to play nice with USB 3 / 3.1 ports...MSI has sent me a replacement, and I will most likely try this soon, where I will lose 3-4 days of work time. Please forgive the inconvenience, and add 3-4 days onto my deadlines...This is timely, anyway, since my wife and I aim to visit the Gulf at about the same time.

 

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

PSSS__Please remember that I *don't* work directly from my hand-drawn sketches, rather, I sculpt 3D pieces BASED ON those visual and mental notes. Once roughs are approved, you will have another chance to weigh in on a preliminary.

 

 

Gizzards & Jumberello Night Scene

Night Scenes: Pile of Gizzards and Gorge

Draft of Wolf Scene Part 2 - Anna S

The Comrades arrive in Western Oz...

Anna is the second artist...I shouldn't really count Fland...she has great talent, but apparently got caught in the Poppy Field...I wonder if she will ever awaken.  

May, 29

Peeky

Greetings Anna,

If you can come pretty close to the style of art that I have had developed before,  and are able to meet the other conditions called for in my job offer, than what will you charge for creating one of the scenes that I provided as a word file.  You can pick a scene, but chickens and chess is taken and probably the crazy wizard scene.  If one of the remaining characters strike you, please quote me on that.  I would like to know what you will charge for subsequent scenes/characters and for the giclee art as the art without the prints has little value on kickstarter

 

May, 29

Anna Sh

Hello, Peeky,

thank you for reaching out!

I can do the similar style as you provided as references though one would definitely recognize it's not the same artist. Your conditions look reasonable and I checked through the workflow you did with Ruslan on your site.

The thing is I do not do printing, I just provide an artwork in a required format. Thus I never worked with giclee specifically, do you want it to be a traditionally painted piece for printing? I can do watercolors, though prefer work digitally.

 

So regarding my workflow:

I checked the word files you provided: mostly scenes contains numerous characters and specific background - I would charge $XXX for an illustration. If you need a character concept to be developed (means a full color illustration of one character, no background) I would do it for $XXX a piece, and I dare say the character concepts is something I am really good at. I will not charge or limit a number of revisions as you feel a reasonable client to me. I will send you in-between drafts for revisions of any stages you require. When an illustration is approved I will send you the final piece in any formats you will ask for (Jpeg, tif, pdf etc) ready for printing. In layers if you want. Really anything. After it's paid, it's yours all and fully :) I would prefer to be paid for each piece separately after it's approved.

The thing I do not quite understand in your conditions is to print each scene revision, sign and post it  to you. Not that I am against, just never met such requirements before and not sure how it works. I believe it cannot be a real-time process according to the project timing, can it?

 

Let me know if you think we can come to an agreement on the project or you have any questions.

Have a good day!

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May, 29

Peeky  

Please review my last communique and the job specs. The limited edition prints are to be used in a fundraising project.  Without them, I cannot raises the anticipated funds I need. My last artist was from the Ukraine and he was able to find a printer for archival quality prints, Please review the info.  If you can figure this out, then we can work through the rest.

Peeky

 

May, 29

Anna Sh

I am Ukrainian, but stay in South Africa. Give me a day, I will try to find out if I can get a good printing opportunity here. I am not expert in printing, but I will use your current artist's proposal as reference for scope of work for limited edition prints.

Will get back to you soon.

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May, 29

There are also many printers on-line but there will likely be a quality printer if you are near a big city.

Peeky

 

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May, 30

Anna Sh

Waiting for quotations from several printing services I found here, will let you know soon.

Also I inquired about price for shipping the works to USA, as in South Africa one better not use local post service - there is high probability you will not get the package.

I am waiting for the information from the services tomorrow.  Thank you for your patience.

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May, 30

Peeky

Great. Thank you for checking on this!  My other artist in the Ukraine has shipped and intends to ship batches of the prints in a wooden enclosure to keep them from damage, There might be a picture on my site. If not I can find it, we are expecting to ship maybe a hundred at a time and to separate them with some paper or other material to keep them from sticking together.

Peeky

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Jun, 2

Anna Sh

Sorry for the delay, it took me several day to collect all the information.

Yes, I saw the wooden box on your site, though I wasn't able to find the same here. What I found is paper based honeycomb custom crate that is claimed to be protective enough for this type of shipping.

 

I also found a good printing service (actually went there and collected some samples, so I can be sure the quality of paper and printing is good). Here is the proposal: 

1. Epson Enhanced Matt Paper 190 gsm - A3  (29,7x42cm) - $XXX for each print (officially this paper do not considered archival, but the quality is still very good and can be used for high quality art prints. I am literally holding the samples in my hands now and this paper feels almost the same as the one listed next)

2. Tecco PM230 Matt Paper 230 gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print

3. Rembrandt CANVAS (cotton fabric, UV resistant) 380 gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print

 

Unfortunately they give no discounts for large amounts of prints.

 

Now about postage. The most affordable service I found here is PostNet. Their rates for shipping a package up to 5 kg (which for us is 100-200 of A3 prints depending on the type of paper we use) going to be about $XXX(it's including customized packaging).

 

Let me know what you think and if you have other questions.

Have a good day!

Anna

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Jun, 2

Peeky

You did very well with the research, thank you. Please find out what it would cost if they did use hey hello and, if there is such a thing, Archival paper. Also I need to know the exact type of inks or Archival printing process, they are using, for example, refer to my job offer. If I have to pay more, then make the best price that you can. The crate for shipping is fine. And shipping is what it is! But I really appreciate your going through the trouble to work that out.  You are very close, thank you again.

Did you see my comment that I sent with the first re do on queen quinella? I gave you a link to a website that had hiking shorts rather than the underwear she is wearing. Forgive me if I am ignorant, and they are not underwear, But since they look like underwear, I would appreciate you making them hiking shorts.

 

Sent from my iPad

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Jun, 3

Pardon me if I misunderstood. It may be that the second and third paper is archival. forgive me if so.

Peeky

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Jun, 3

Anna Sh

Yes the second option is paper of archival quality and the third is canvas of archival quality. They have paper and canvas of even better quality than what I proposed, but the price is also higher (like $XXX for an A3 paper print and $XXX for a canvas print, can give you more details on those, but I think the price might be too high). And my first option is just a good proposal for high quality art prints with lower price, though not considered to be officially of archival quality, but I thought it still pretty close to what you had with your prior artist as agreed option.

 

I will ask about the ink and printing specifications, think I will receive the answer on Monday as it's weekend already. Not sure what hey hello is.

 

You have not sent me any comments yet I guess, as I have not started with any works so far.

If you think we are close to start our cooperation, I can do a test sketch for you. Just send me the task that is not in progress by other artist yet (I think character development would be the best option to starts with if possible).

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Jun, 3

Peeky

Yes for sure. please continue to seek out lower priced archival.  OK - now lets do a trial.  Pick a scene and a character or two  - a sketch  is fine until we get it  worked out. I am more into very detailed images, not water color...after you pick them out - give me a price and then you can begin.  My real  job is bothersome and two or so days may come before I respond but - no I appreciate your efforts on the prints and that has earned you the right to show your talents. Thank you Peeky

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Jun, 4

Anna Sh

Let's say I can do Jaunty Jack and Flying Monkey character concept (one figure, no background) - $XXX each. For the full scenes let's take "2Overgrown Bantam Village" or "Mice by fireside" - $XXX each.

For the test I did a sketch for Jaunty Jack character, please find attached.

I'll let you know about printing options as soon as I get information.

Jun, 5

Peeky

He looks fine, Anna.  Go ahead and color him and do the monkeys and both the village and mice.  Good job.

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Jun, 6

Anna Sh

Thank you, Peeky! I will proceed with Jaunty Jack, but I would rather not start other works before we agree on our further cooperation. I think it's better to be sure you are ok with the printing options that are available for me here and we will be able to work on the project as you planned.

 

I am waiting for the quote from another printing service now. Their prices for archival prints are a bit lower, but they are in other city, so I should also consider shipping my order to me. I will compare this option with the proposal I gave you before and will let you know. Sorry it takes much time to get all the information, but I do not have many options for archival prints where I am now.

 

Regarding the proposal I already gave you, they use Epson 9 colour printers, using Epson Ultra Chrome inks.

 

Will show you Jaunty Jack in color shortly.

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Jun, 7

Peeky

Tell you what, Anna, can you redo some of Jacks features. I will pay you the amount I paid you the first time.  I like his outfit, his expression is fine, but I want him older, rougher looking, craggy...looking, hair as is, is fine, but longer maybe. Also thicker in body, arms...with arm hair, hands...to look like someone who has been out in the sun and open sky much of his life.  Barefoot also as that is how they function in the story.

Also, thanks for taking the time to find out about the prints. what I need to know is the material - canvas, paper, whatever the mfg is and weight - it should have an advertised or verifiable archival life and the same with the ink - There are different types of Ultra Chrome ink. They may all be archival but since I am no expert, i will research it once I get the details. I am including an article as an example.  Take your time on the prices - no rush! Your care and concern mean the world.  Thank you.

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New Epson UltraChrome HDX Pigment Ink Technology Delivers the Highest Print Permanence Ratings in History for Epson UltraChrome Inks

All-New Photographic Pigment Inks Featured in Epson SureColor P7000 24-inch and SureColor P9000 44-inch Large-Format Printers Preserves the Legacy of the Print

October 22, 2015

 

Epson America, Inc. today announced another milestone in photographic ink technology and print longevity with preliminary print permanence ratings for its new Epson UltraChrome® HDX pigment ink technology. Featured in the new SureColor® P7000 and SureColor P9000 printers, data accumulated to date indicates that – depending upon the type of paper – the new inks can provide print permanence ratings of up to 200 years for color prints, and likely in excess of 400 years for black and white prints when printed with Epson’s “Advanced Black and White Print Mode.” According to comprehensive tests conducted by Wilhelm Imaging Research, Inc. (WIR), the world’s leading independent permanence testing laboratory, Epson UltraChrome HDX pigment inks can provide up to twice the Display Permanence Ratings of earlier generations of Epson UltraChrome inks with most Epson photo and fine art papers, including the new line of Epson Legacy Fine Art Papers.

 

Peeky

Jun, 7

Anna Sh

Peeky, please find attached new image of Jaunty Jack.

As I already started to work in color, I applied your comments on the colored figure. Did him look older and tougher. And bit bulkier, though maybe I still should do him even bigger... I tried another hairstyle as the previous one looked too cartoony to me when I tried to do it longer. Tell me what you think.

Mind that the work is not finalized, I will make details more accurate when the overall look will be approved.

Jun, 8

Peeky

That is getting there. You are quick Anna.  I would leave off the patches on his outfit. Add hair to his legs and tops of feet to match his arm.  His face looks too young, need more age and weathering.  mIght be easier if you make him thicker over all - your call.

 

Also - his hair. I thought I included this. it is the last sentence in his description - I left it out. You did not know...sorry!!!

 

“His hair is Raggedy Ann red and thick as thin spaghetti,” Dorothy whispered to me with a giggle. Again, Jack boomed. “Al-l-l-l-l-l- a-a-a-board….”

Peeky

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Jun, 10

Anna Sh

Peeky, I did adjustments to Jaunty Jack, but I am not sure what to do with his hairstyle. I saw the description you sent, still do not know how you want it to look like. It would help if you have a reference picture or give me description more about the hairstyle, not only the hair quality.

Please find the picture attached.

Jun, 10

Peeky

The hair is fine; everything else is fine but the head is disproportionately small to thebody and still looks too young -  puff it up a bit and add some years, a bit of fat, even at a cost to the smile. You can change the expression to serious or wise etc. thx

 

Peeky

 

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Jun, 12

Anna Sh

Peeky,

so I finally investigated the printing options I have and I found only two services that work professionally with art printing and can provide prints of archival quality. Please find the proposals for both below.

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PRINTER 1 - based in the same city as I am, so I can directly overview the work and fetch the order. (I give you $XXX per print although before I said $22 for the same paper - sorry, I converted incorrectly last time, my bad)

Their options for our project are:

 

a) - Tecco PM230 Matt Paper 230 gsm - A3 - $23 for each print. Confirmed Archival quality

 

b) - Colour Jet Rembrandt CANVAS (cotton fabric) 380 gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. Not archival certified, but UV resistant, comparable to an archival quality canvas

 

c) - Epson Water-resistant Matte Canvas 375gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. Canvas (65% polyester, 35% cotton) of Archival quality.

 

 They print on Epson 9 colour printers, using Epson Ultra Chrome inks confirmed for Archival quality, 100 year warranty against fading indoors

 

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PRINTER 2 - based in other city, so I am not able to meet them in person and I have to add Courier cost to get the order.

Their options for our project are:

 

a) - Hahnemuhle Fine Art Paper Smooth 305 gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. Archival certified, 150 years warranty against fading under normal indoor lighting conditions. !00% cotton, smooth matte finish.

 

b) - Premium Fine Art Canvas 380gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. 100 year archival warranty. 100% cotton, local production.

 

Prices are lower than at the Printer above, but have to add Courier cost (approximately $130-$150 for each 100 prints order, depending on the weight)

 

They use Ink set Epson Ultra Chrome confirmed for Archival quality, 100 year warranty against fading indoors.

 

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Also as I said before, shipping costs to US going to be approximately about $XXX for 100-200 prints (I say "approximately", because it depends on the weight and packaging, so it is difficult for me to say the precise sum now)

 

Let me know if we can agree on a printing option to go ahead with the project.

 

Now, I have changed Jack's face and proportions, please find attached. It is difficult to make him look much older because of his bright hair color (give him grey hair with this face - and he already looks 60). Tell me what you think.

 

Thank you,

Anna

Jun, 13

Excellent!

Peeky

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Jun, 13

Peeky

 

On Mon, Jun 12, 2017 at 5:08 PM, Guru.com > wrote:

Thank you Anna, Jack looks great. How far is that other city?  If demand for these is in the hundreds, perhaps it may make sense for me to incur the costs to to put you up there for a day or three and ship directly from there.  (just a thought).  In any event, you have given me choices that I can work with and for this I thank you and please proceed with your sample. I look forward to seeing it.

On the sample scene art - if you can shy away from glossy or shiny, this would be good. Jack's detail is excellent - everything about him is really good. However, the glossy makes me think cartoonish.. check out the art done so far. I might not be describing this well. Please do not take it as an affront.

On another note - you have been the most considerate and conscientious person to work with. Thank you.

 

Peeky

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Jun, 13

Anna Sh

Peeky, thank you! The project feels interesting to me with all those unique characters to draw, so as an artist I am always keen to work on a project that captures my attention.

Well, I stay in Johannesburg and the printer2 is in Cape Town, which is like 1000 km away, flight distance. I checked the flights quickly on skyscanner and now it's about $XXX, so near the same as Courier cost. I don't mind going to Cape Town for a day - lovely city, but not sure if it makes sense.

I do not really understand what you mean by "glossy", but I do see what is the difference between my style and the style you had before. I will try to adjust it and make it look more like the images you gave as references, no problem! Once I get the style right further illustrations will go faster for me.

 

Now, do you have specific demands for the image size? I work with the sample as A3 format (300 dpi), tell me if you want it to be suitable for bigger prints than A3, so I could adjust it now. I did not work bigger for now, because the bigger is size of a picture - the longer it takes to paint.

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Jun, 13

Peeky

Thank you. In my specifications I had some size print requirements. Are those practical in case someone wants larger prints.  I will be offering A-3 as limited edition prints, but if it is not much more money for you to make it larger, I would consider paying.  As I could see some wanting to print scenes to fit size A-2.

Peeky

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Jun, 16

Anna Sh

I will not charge for A2 size more, just let you know that work with the bigger size might take longer.

Please find Jack attached. I did the colors more solid and added the sketchy strokes as on the references - is that close to what you meant?

Also see my thoughts on the flying monkey - I started with a sketch.

Jun, 18

Peeky

Great Job on Jack! You really captured his spirit.

On the Monkey - I love his face. I have to ponder the other parts. But do not let that hold you up on the scene.  things that popped into my  head were the  back feet.

I got lazy and googled it. Primates have five fingers on their hand and five toes on their feet. ... The hands andfeet of all primates, except for humans, are designed for grasping. Humans have hands designed for grasping, but not feet! Humans have opposable thumbs.

Also - I have to think about the tail and maybe check the entire chapter to see if I included more details on the tail but will not be able to dothat  soon.  The wings are good and proportionate.

 

I am not near my computer but did I provide text for a monkey scene where the monkeys were in the tree throwing things at the manticore?  If not that would make a good scene and am doing this to remindme.  thank u.

 

Peeky

 

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Jun, 18

Anna Sh

Peeky, thank you!

Does that mean that Jaunty Jack is approved?

 

Also, let's make it clear - am I still doing the tests or am I already on the project? Because if I knew I am approved for the project, I would start working on other scenes as well and get more engaged in the work.

On the monkey: you are right about the feet, will fix them. I looked through the files you provided and the only descriptions on monkeys I found are:

"The monkey screeched, spread its leathery wings, and dive-bombed the scarecrow".

“Why they’s a cross between monkey, bat, and dragon,”

"The King was a magnificent beast, but that which set him apart was not the sheen of his coat or the fluid motion of liquid-like muscles. It was a large floppy pink bow that rested askew upon his head"

That's all I referred to in my sketch. If you have more descriptions or thoughts on the character - please tell me, I will gladly correct my drawing. (Note: I did a common monkey for now, not the King).

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Jun, 19

Peeky

Jack is approved and you are on the project so go ahead and do a scene or two.  Do not worry about the monkey at this time but I will pay you. I have an idea for a scene later with the monkeys and  you can finalize their look at that time. Welcome aboard!

 

 

 

 

 

Peeky

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Jun, 20

Anna Sh

Peeky, that's good news, thank you!

Will send you scene sketches shortly.

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Jun, 20

Anna Sh

Hi Peeky,

working on Overgrown Bantam Village scene. Description says there should be Jim and Tee-Wa-Kaa on the illustration. I do not know who are they (their characters are not in the provided references) - do you have those characters already done?

The same question about scene with Mice near fire place - I need to know how Jim looks for the scene.

Thank you

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Jun, 20

Peeky

Greetings Anna, Here are some images of Jim.  Since Jim and Tee are looking at the travesty of the devastated village, you might not need to add the character Tee. This will allow more room for details to the scene. However if you need Tee to balance the image then, you will have to create him and I will find a description for him...

 

Peeky

Jun, 22

Anna Sh

Peeky,

I think the scene will do without Tee all right.

Please, find the sketch attached.

Thank you

Jun, 23

Peeky

Greetings Anna. are both images supposed to be in the same? In any event, when I open them they appear to be the same to me?.

When I first looked at one, my thought was, "boy, this is pretty cluttered and really packed with information". But, I think it could really be incredible in color. so, to me your challenge is to really differentiate each character and entity or to possibly give the Jungle a camouflaged effect so that one would have to look for the eyes and signs of danger. maybe vines with DEFORMED or malformed hand or claw or Talon like features reaching 4 The Travelers.

Pardon the poor English please as I am dictating. Please proceed with color.

 

Peeky

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Jun, 23

Anna Sh

Peeky, sorry for the double image - it was the same.

I added lot of details to create this feeling of "invading jungle". But I can clean it a bit if you think it's too cluttered. Here I did a fast color test  (attached). It's really rough, but I hope you will be able to see how it's going to look in color and tell me if the atmosphere of the scene is right.

 

Can I create the invoice for Jaunty Jack? I can send you the final image in good quality and different file types as agreed.

 

Thank you.   vegansvalley_colortest.jpg

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Jun, 23

Peeky

Yes, Anna, please bill me for Jack

With respect to the scene, here are my suggestions. Proceed to color it.

  *   The jungle scene needs to be a little crisper, more detailed to make it look a bit more realistic. When this prints out as an A3, the detail will be important.

  *   Here is a link to images of serpents' eyes. You could do each jungle eye in the scene with more detail and a different color - making them bright and vivid.

  *   Snake Eyes

  *   There is a lot of one color which I will call gray - it is the trees and vines that hold the eyes.  These can be different colors - even try a vivid green and some contrasting flowers or mold or snake eyes.

  *   Perhaps also add some brightly colored flowers. I love the way you captured the fog and the mood with your dark and moldy coloring.  But a bit of color would add some splash...

  *   You did a good job with Jim and Dorothy.  I am attaching a couple images of her face and a facial of the scarecrow. If you could make their faces look more like those - it would be wonderful.

  *   The clothes of Jim and Dorothy should be a bit torn and dirty as they jungle has been harsh on them.

  *   I love the Wolf

You are doing very well. I hope my suggestions are not to discouraging.

 

Peeky

Jun, 24

Anna Sh

Peeky,

I corrected faces of Dorothy and Scarecrow, added some flowers and worked on colors. Please see attached. Hope I got your suggestions right. (I didn't miss the comment about torn clothes, it's just easier to add that on the next stage of work).

Mind that this is still a sketch and the coloring is very rough as now I want to agree on basic drawing and color scheme before I start to finalize. The final drawing will be more accurate and crisp for sure.

 

As I also started to work on the scene with mice, can you send me the image of approved William character please?

 

Looks like I can't bill you here, it says I am not technically hired. So you should hire me or give me some Billing Code... I am new to Guru so do not know how it works here with payments yet, sorry if it will take time for me to figure out.

Jun, 24

Peeky

OK let me type up an agreement as I have to incorporate the limited edition art. I will do that in the next day or two at the most. If you want to bill me by paypal you can if not I will have this done and you can do it thru Guru.  If you turn to the color images that I shared initially with this job offering on Guru - there is a scene with William and Toto hanging beneath him and some human crows.  That is the best pic.

Peeky

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Jun, 26

Peeky

Greetings Anna,

 

If these terms and conditions meet with your approval, You are hired! You will be crafting scenes from an unpublished commemorative trilogy, "The Wizard Was Odd", a Wizard of Oz series written from a unique perspective, Toto's! A multidimensional plot-twister w updated cast of wondrous, quirky misfits.

 

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The Assignment

You shall have the opportunity to craft some characters and scenes from story lines within the manuscripts. Some scenes will require your incorporating some of the existing characters and therefore, you understand and accept that you are not the exclusive artist on this art series project.

Characters and scenes are to be based upon my descriptions and pages from the manuscript that describes the scene to be crafted. I often rely on images from the internet to show the types of facial expressions, posture, and pretty much anything that I can't seem to describe with words.  We will communicate by email as much as possible, but I have no problem communicating by phone also.

I intend to include the scenes that you draft in the first two books of the trilogy, both digitally (epub) and printed.  You will be paid promptly each time you complete a scene and or character.

The scenes will be also offered as limited edition prints if I am successful meeting my monetary goal through a fundraiser utilizing Kickstarter. Kickstarter is a platform where one can go for help from the public to raise money for various projects. My project is printing the first two books of the trilogy. To clarify, your fee will not be dependent upon my Kickstarter success. However, if my Kickstarter fundraiser is a success, you will have an opportunity to make additional revenue by printing, numbering, and signing your scenes as limited edition art which as indicated in your emails will allow me to choose from the following options.  I understand and agree that I am to pay for packaging/mailing/shipping costs of art to me and to you should it come from an area other than where you live. Optionally, I am to pay for travel costs should I elect an option requiring that your traveling to a printer is mutually agreeable.  From your email, I understand that I have the following printing options available to me:

PRINTER 1 - based in the same city as I am, so I can directly overview the work and fetch the order. (I give you $XXX per print although before I said $XXX for the same paper - sorry, I converted incorrectly last time, my bad)

Their options for our project are:

a) - Tecco PM230 Matt Paper 230 gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. Confirmed Archival quality

b) - Colour Jet Rembrandt CANVAS (cotton fabric) 380 gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. Not archival certified, but UV resistant, comparable to an archival quality canvas

c) - Epson Water-resistant Matte Canvas 375gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. Canvas (65% polyester, 35% cotton) of Archival quality.

 They print on Epson 9 colour printers, using Epson Ultra Chrome inks confirmed for Archival quality, 100 year warranty against fading indoors

 

PRINTER 2 - based in other city, so I am not able to meet them in person and I have to add Courier cost to get the order.

Their options for our project are:

a) - Hahnemuhle Fine Art Paper Smooth 305 gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. Archival certified, 150 years warranty against fading under normal indoor lighting conditions. !00% cotton, smooth matte finish.

b) - Premium Fine Art Canvas 380gsm - A3 - $XXX for each print. 100 year archival warranty. 100% cotton, local production.

Prices are lower than at the Printer above, but have to add Courier cost (approximately $130-$150 for each 100 prints order, depending on the weight)

They use Ink set Epson Ultra Chrome confirmed for Archival quality, 100 year warranty against fading indoors.

Also as I said before, shipping costs to US going to be approximately about $XXX for 100-200 prints (I say "approximately", because it depends on the weight and packaging, so it is difficult for me to say the precise sum now)

 

Terms and Conditions are in the next message - IF you agree to this message please OK it and also OK the next.  thx.

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Jun, 26

Peeky

Part 2 of the agreement...

 

Other Terms and Conditions.

I am to own unconditionally all drafts and final scenes outright, free and clear, once you are paid.

Each final scene will need to be provided in the following formats, jpeg, tif, and pdf and with a preferred density of 300 dpi or with sufficient pixels (where applicable) to print a pristine image of 24 x 30 inches.

Furthermore, I require that you print each scene revision no smaller than A4 or 8.5 X 11", number it, enter its creation date, and initial/sign it

In addition, to your fee for creating each scene, I will pay $25.00 to cover your cost of printing and first class mailing of all revisions, be it one or ten revisions for each completed scene which need not be printed on archival paper.

You will get credit for your art on my website, WizardWasOdd.com or Oziian.com (Wizard Was Odd Squad) and in any and all digital and printed books. You may write your own bio for Oziian.com and include whatever art you might have created before working with me that you believe might help your career or promote your talents. I reserve the right to edit and restrict the amount of downloads and any art that might be deemed risque or inappropriate for children

 

You understand and agree that I reserve the right to work with multiple artists.

To increase my social media presence in the promotion of my Kickstarter platform, I intend to use our Guru interaction as it pertains to the development and finalization of characters and scenes.  I any fees requested, agreed upon, or paid. This exposure will likely present you with opportunities from others and will allow you to charge accordingly.  Nor will I publish our cost of Giclee prints and your portion if separately stated for signing, numbering, and possibly stamping.  Fees will show as $XXX.

If you are unable to complete the next draft of an image within four days of the date that you estimate, you are to provide me with notice and an estimated completion date. If that is unacceptable to me, I will have the right to re-assign the art to another artist.

If for any reason I am unsatisfied with a preliminary sketch, I reserve that right to cancel or reassign that image and will pay you one quarter of what your final billing for that completed scene would have been.

If I am satisfied with the preliminary, and unsatisfied with the final color scene, then I will pay half of what your final billing for that completed scene would have been. I am not permitted to use your rejected scenes as limited edition art or as images within the  books. If I later do decide to do so, you will be paid the balance of your fees.

You will be paid within ten business days of when I am billed by Guru (seldom if ever will you have to wait this long).

You agree to oversee the printing, signing, and numbering (possibly stamping) the limited edition prints within thirty (30) days of my request.  You understand that the future demand of any limited edition prints come from Kickstarter Patrons from all over the world who have advanced funds to acquire these prints and therefore, you are indirectly working with and have a responsibility to provide the signed art agreed upon to what could be hundreds of international patrons of the arts.

In closing, Anna, I look forward to working with you. Ask any questions and as we work together, if I am slow to respond, feel free to bug me. I shall do my best to be responsive. If this agreement is acceptable, follow up your approval in the next email and I will surely hire you!

 

Peeky

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Jun, 27

Anna Sh

Good day, Peeky.

Thank you for the detailed agreement. I went through it and have several questions before I fully accept it.

 

1. What are the estimated deadlines for the whole project in general? Is there a specific date you want to have all done and finalized. It's just for me to understand my own work plans and occupation.

 

2. I want to mention that in relation to my life circumstances I may (or may not) change my place of living within 6 or 12 months. This may influence my possibilities to work with the same printers as I mentioned to you and I will have to find other options. I state that will do my best to meet all the requirements you have and spend my time to find the best option in this case. This may never happen though, but I think it's fare that I warn you to be on the safe side. This will not influence my ability to work, of course.

 

3. As I am new to Guru, it just occurred to me that the sums I estimated for my work is the actual sums I expect to get. But Guru might charge some % in addition from you - doesn't it? Sorry I do not sure how it works yet. 

 

4. Will I have the right to use approved works in my portfolio before the project is released?

 

All the rest terms and condition are clear to me and I agree to them. Do you want me to sign anything or you will be fine with just my OK?

 

Do you have any preferred way of getting final quality files? I do not posses any secured accounts on fileshares, because usually I use Wetransfer and it works just fine for most of the projects. Tell me if that will work for you.

 

I am finishing the draft for the second scene, plan to show it to you tomorrow. While please comment the VegansValley draft I sent last time.

 

Thank you for appreciation of my art skills and possibility to work with you on the project! Looking forward to our cooperation.

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Jun, 27

Peeky

Greetings Anna, see my comments below

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Jun, 27

Peeky

I am replying to your June 24 email. Proceed with the final draft of  the Vegan Valley scene; Bill me for Jack; attached is a photo of William

Jun, 28

Anna Sh

Good day Peeky,

Guru still says I am not hired here, so I can not create any guru invoice yet.

 

I will work further on the Vegan Valley scene, meanwhile please find attached the sketch for scene with mice in the poppyfield. I am not sure about the Scarecrow and Chip on the background, I like the scene more without them, but I put them in as they are in the story. Tell me what you think.

 

Please, send me your comments regarding my questions on the agreement.

 

Thank you!

Jun, 28

Peeky

In my last email I was answering your questions.  You had clearly stated that you had questions prior to agreeing to the terms. Are the terms acceptable? Did I miss an email?  Of course I will hire and pay you for all you have done, but you asked if your approval by email was OK and I said yes.  Go to Guru if you missed the last email.

Peeky

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Jun, 28

Excellent job, Anna,  w the concept, Dorothy looks great as does William....plus there is room for text in the background. -  I will be adding some text and these will go into the books.  The images without text will be limited edition print.  Great job the first time out too.

Peeky

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Jun, 29

Anna Sh

Peeky, sorry, maybe I am missing something, but I'm checking Guru messages and your message from Jun 28 is just "Greetings Anna, see my comments below" and that's it, so for some reason I cannot see your answer on my massage from Jun 27. And the next massage is your reply to my 24 Jun mail.

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Jun, 29

Peeky

Dear Anna, you r not crazy. the message is not there. So I will ans your questions as follows.

1. Estimated Deadline - two months if possible.

2. I have confidence you will work with me if you move. I understand that it may cost me more money in travel or possibly prints.

3. I have to pay a small fee.  If you are asking me to pay for your portion of their fee, please add that to your current fee and tell me what your fee would be. If you do not intend this, tell me the amount of the fee anyway as I am curious.

4. Yes - remember it is going to be in a blog and available to view on our website.

 

The terms and conditions was covered in two messages because it was too long to fit into one message. If you can go back and open and agree to each, please do that. If not, in your next email, you can just state you approve of the terms set forth in this Guru message stream.

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Jun, 29

Anna Sh

Peeky, thank you!

 

Here I state that I agree to terms and conditions you provided in both your messages from Jun 26.

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Jun, 29

Anna Sh

So, it says that Guru deducts a transaction fee of  8,95% from the amount paid for each invoice for me.

Now as I am billing you for Jaunty Jack concept, I am not going to add any fee for you as I do not feel like changing the price after the work was done as agreed.

But for my further artworks I would prefer to get the amounts I named in full ($XXX for character concept and $XXX for full scene) if possible. Which means I would charge you $XXX and $XXX accordingly. Tell me if that is acceptable for you, because I understand that it is my fault I didn't check all the conditions before.

 

Now I have created the invoice for Jaunty Jack, hope I did it right...

I can send you the final files for Jack: jpeg, tif, pdf. Tell me which way is preferable for you and if Wetransfer fileshare is ok (it's not secured, but I have never had any troubles with it before). Or if you prefer other tools for sharing big files - let me know.

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Jun, 30

Peeky

I am unable to answer dad  today, but those adjusted prices are fine. Tonight I will make payment whether it is right or wrong and we can just move forward. Thank you

 

Expect delays, out of the office,  when responses are sent from my iPhone-

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Jun, 30

Peeky

Thank you Anna, I look forward to it!

 

Peeky

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Jul, 2

Anna Sh

Peeky,

I received the payment, thank you!

 

Please find the link for final files for Jaunty Jack concept below (the link will be valid for 7 days from now):

https://we.tl/RVjsINd75F

Working on Vagans Valley finalization. Plan to send you the scene by Thuesday.

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Jul, 4

Anna Sh

Good day, Peeky

Please find attached Vegans Valley scene.

About scene with mice: what is the time of day when they are sitting at the fire? It is important for color scheme.

 

Thank you.

Jul, 4

Peeky

Good Question, Anna.  An image lit by fire and sunset could really produce a "Wow Factor" if your talents are up to it.  I think if it were any darker than dusk, it would be hard to portray the more distant parts of the scene.  You will likely be a better judge of this part of the setting.

 

I look forward to checking out the "valley" when I get back to my computer

 

from my iPhone...

 

Peeky

 

 

 

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Jul, 5

Peeky

It looks GREAT!  Finish it as is. Congrats.

Peeky

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Jul, 6

Anna Sh

Peeky,

thank you, I'm glad you liked it! I will clean the Vegans Valley a bit and show you the final shortly.

 

So far please look at the rough color test for the scene with mice. I also think it's better to be dusk - so we could see all the scene and at the same time feel the warms of the bonfire. Tell me if you like the atmosphere as it is now, so I could proceed with details.

Also as I am personally worried about girls sitting on the ground, I gave Dorothy a blanket to sit on. But I'm not sure if that fits the story and if they can travel with a blanket :)

Jul, 6

Peeky

Greetings Anna,

In the scene, there is density. Density of poppies, carpets of poppies - so I would like detailed flowers close up blending into a carpets of color in the ever darkening background. Please mimimize the sky as most of the background could be poppy carpets of various colors. the word file provided has a link to poppy colors and poppy fields.  Going this way, the carpets of poppy could fade off into the sunset.  and the density of the mice could surround Jim and Dorothy and extend to scare crow and chip chopper.

There are also density of mice. Mice everywhere - not sporatic mice - so there needs to be mice all around the queen and there could be a milling of mice waiting their turn at the milk trough.

I think it should be a bit darker, more dusk

 

Description

shoulders – there is clear comfort and ease between the comrades and mice.  All of this takes place in a field of poppies and the poppies are of all colors and shades. (at the end of this I have a section on poppies and their color variations for your information.  I would like the brilliance of the poppies and the color range of the campfire to add warmth, a sense of peace, and coziness to the scene.  The poppies, however, can’t be too close to the comrades by the fireside except scare crow and Chip (tin man) as explained above.

, and giving Chip Chopper a good hour to prepare a monument so naming the site, we started along the grassy bank in the direction of the road. Plenty of flowers, fruit trees, and sunshine warmed our hearts and lightened our spirits.

For miles, we listened to the singing of brightly colored birds and admired the striking deep and varied hues of the flowers, which carpeted the ground. Most amazing were the clusters of scarlet poppies. Now and again, streams of sunlight splashed between the canopy’s boughs and poured upon the poppies, dazzling our eyes with ripples of scarlet and gold.

 

Peeky

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Jul, 7

Anna Sh

Hello Peeky,

ok, got it. Will apply your comments.

 

Please find the finalized work for Vegans Valley for approval attached.

 

Thank you.

Jul, 7

Peeky

The Vegan scene looks great - wrap it up.  I might suggest you consider the overgrown Bantam Village - file attached.  this would be a broad landscape scene and the characters would be small.  This scene takes place toward the end of the valley.

 

Peeky

Jul, 8

Anna Sh

Peeky,

I'm a bit confused, The Vegan scene actually is the Overgrown Bantam Village scene. Sorry for the confusion in naming.

Two scenes I took from the beginning were 2Overgrovn Bantam Village and Mice by fire side - those two I am working on now.

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Jul, 9

Peeky

What you have done is fine, Anna. You will be fully paid.

Peeky

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Jul, 10

Anna Sh

Peeky, sorry for the delay with the Mice scene. Those mice and flowers took time - a lot of small details. Plan to finish and send you the scene tomorrow.

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Jul, 11

Anna Sh

Greetings Peeky,

please find attached the scene with Mice by fire side. I made the scene darker and added more mice. I can add more, but as they are small, I'm afraid they might start to look like a furry mess.

 

I can start to work on next scenes\concepts. For example I can proceed with Flying Monkey or start something new: let's say, 2Firewalker or 2The snizzle of social sizzle or 2Wizard memories scene. I am just not sure what tasks are free and what are already taken by other artist.

Let me know.

 

Thank you.

Jul, 11

Peeky

Greetings Anna, This is very nice. It looks good.  I may have mentioned it and if not so be it, but on some of the images I would like text added.  So on this one, I would like one set with text and one set without. I will pay extra for your extra work.  Below, in green is the text I would like. If it is too much for the image, then I will shorten the verse. The images with the text will go in the books.   What I am thinking is that where you have sky, if you have a tree canopies on each end of the sky and text in the middle of the sky - that would work.  If you have some placement of text, please proceed. The body of Chip Chopper is fine, but he needs a face lift. I include an image as a guide. I will pick an image for you by tomorrow.

Queen Mouse continued in singsong verse, quoting ancient lore as handed down by the Royal Librarians.

“What shall keep man from picking the beautiful flowers, parroted the Queen of Camembert. What shall keep the beasts from digging us from our burrows?The perfume of the poppies will protect you, said the Good Witch. The sweetness of its scent shall bring you happiness. All mice shall be free in spirit and light of heart. All others, man and beast shall yearn heartily for sleep. Heavy shall be the price paid by those who trespass. Those who ignore their weary eyes and remain within Camembert will drop midstride, and eternal sleep shall befall them.”

 

Peeky

Jul, 11

Peeky

One more question...is there anyway you can think of to make Queen Mouse stand out a little more? Her clothes and appearance are darling - no changing that.

The only thing I can think of is to move the rock to the other side of the fire but that might be too extensive a change.

The other thing may be to remove some of the poppies that show up immediately behind her?

 

You did a really fine job and I really appreciate it.

 

Peeky

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Jul, 11

Peeky

Anna, You did a great job on the wolf so here is a scene with wolves. PS - I have not given but one other image to another so you are way ahead of the game.

If you want to try your hand at drawing a wizard. I have had numerous attempts but I do not like their faces. I can't say why.  There are three scenes that use the wizard. In the Memory Wizard he is very angry.  He is also angry in the "proclamation of the Wizard"  So the same face would work in both places. The different faces that I am sharing are ones that I tried to use on the cover of the third book but was not happy with and so the wizard remains unfinished.

I like the expressions of the people creatures that are not the wizard, I guess the goal is anger - hatred - smoldering, vivid rage...

Lets see what what you come up with and I will pay you whether I use it or not....

 

Peeky

Jul, 11

Anna Sh

Peeky,

So you want to get the same image in two options - with text and without text? No problem, I'll add the text.

Do you have a preferable font and color for the text, or a font reference? Or maybe an approved image with text you did before?

The text looks too big indeed, but let me first try to fit it on the picture as it is, to see how much it should be shortened.

 

I'll fix the Chip's face.

 

Moving the Queen Mouse would be problematic as all other characters depends on her position. But I can think of changing the lighting on her and her background - that should help.

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Jul, 11

Anna Sh

Peeky, you said "here is a scene with wolves", but no wolfy file attached. Love drawing animals, so gladly will do a wolf scene.

 

The Wizard challenge accepted! Do you need a full character concept for the Wizard? Or you want me to try just a face for now?

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Jul, 12

Peeky

I am attaching other images with text style. Good Idea.

 

Leave the characters the same...I was thinking maybe even a glow around the queen...but removing flowers from behind her and leaving plain grass would make her stand out more.

Peeky

 

 0915 Kiss of the Witch.jpg

 

Jul, 12

Peeky

Start with the face. Wolf attached. Thx Anna!

Peeky

 2Greeted by Wolves.docx

 

Jul, 12

Anna Sh

Peeky,

so I fixed Chip's face and made the Queen Mouse more vivid.

I also added background trees and text in between.

I put the whole text in as large font as possible to fit it on the sky. It seems readable enough, but it will depend on the page size. Looks fine for A4 page to me, but not sure about smaller size.

I found the same font as you had before, but tried it in two options - light and dark. Tell me which you like better.

So please find attached 3 images: no text, light text, dark text.

 

Thank you!

 

Jul, 12

Great job bringing out the queen.  I like the dark text...wrap it up - great job and timing!   Peeky

 

Jul, 12

Anna Sh

Thank you!

So if the Vegans Valley and Mice scenes approved - can I create an invoice for both? As agreed previously I will charge $XXX for each.

I will not charge additional for adding text as that did not lead to any changes to the initial artwork, so it didn't take much time to do. I'll send you the whole range of file types, both - with text and without.

 

Jul, 12

Peeky

You did a good job - make it out for $XXX each.   Thx Peeky

 

Jul, 12

Anna Sh

Peeky, thank you so much!

I am really appreciate it and so glad you like my works!

 

Jul, 14

Anna Sh

Peeky, here is the link to final files for Overgrown Bantam Village and Mice by fire side scenes:

 

https://we.tl/PJNNTpgIJg

 

As the previous one, this link will be valid for one week from now.

Thank you.

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Jul, 15

Peeky

Thank you Anna, they downloaded fine.

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Jul, 15

Anna Sh

Greetings Peeky.

Please find attached my sketches for the Wizard.

I sketched him as "normal" first to imagine the character and then tried the angry faces.

Jul, 15

Peeky

Greetings Anna,

 

These are great drawings. And definitely would have a following in in comics and animation.  The style I am looking for are scenes and characters that appear to be drawn - sketched from reality.  Take a look at the wizard faces I am attaching.  These look like  they could be drawings real people.  The same with the faces of the munchkins. You can try some more if you like or think about it and go on to the wolf scene. It is your call.

 

Peeky

7 hrs ago

Anna Sh

Peeky, I see what you mean. I'll try to get closer to the referenced style. Please see new sketch attached.

I am also working on the wolf scene.

6 hrs ago

Peeky

You certainly have the talent, Anna! That is no longer comic or anime,  but a sketch of a person.  Some bulging eyes and other artful touch - maybe some body lanquage and I am hoping you can capture his rage in the Wizard Memory scene.  If you have that scene, perhaps after the wolf scene...I have some posturing ideas that may help...but clearly I am not the artist. Thank you for hanging in there.

Peeky

Jul, 19 Anna Sh

 

Peeky, Sure, I will try the Wizard Memory scene, I have the text file for it. Please find attached the Greeted by Wolves sketch. Thank you!

 

 

Jul, 19 Peeky

 

wow! And this is excellent on this is excellent! now, do not beat me with a stick. I did not present this seem well to you. I would like you to bill me for your work thus far. we may go back to the scene, but probably not, which is my fault, which is why I want to pay you for what you have done. Now I am going to tell you how I want the scene laid out.

It takes place at Dawn. Toto and Jim and T are sleeping in a big cave like Amphitheater it has Ledges and crevices and multi-dimensional Rock structures where you can place wolves. Toto awakens and Dawn is just peeping Over the Horizon. Toto Sees glowing eyes on the various ledges and structures within this cave-like amphitheater. Parts of this setting will be dark as the sun's rays have not reached the wolves - these wolves - perhaps only their eyes will show. Others, could be a a faint outline while those getting more sunlight will have more substance. Now note the text from the scene. Somehow I left out a key paragraph. Read below and you will see a large wolf walking ahead of the other three. Thise could be at the entry of the amphitheatre. and well lite by sun...the manticore should be larger than the wolf and the head wolf larger than the other two. This should be a landscape scene with a lot of territory rather than the close up that it is now.

Recall - the one side of the amphitheatre is open air where they landed and this wide area is behind them and where the sun is providing light. The cave-like amphitheater surrounds them and the three wolves approach from an entry into the amphitheater.

You did a fine job on the characters and wolves - better than fine so I know this will be fantastic. Sorry again - bill me.

Details of the scene That night we slept beneath rock ledges. It just felt safer. As my eyes popped open at first light, I was greeted by the fiery horizon far to the east.
I stood, shook out the kinks, stretched, and froze. Everywhere in this great amphitheater of staggering cliffs, pocks, and pockets, pairs of eyes glowed. Countless eyes, wide and unblinking stared at me. Golden and red, they drew their color from the light of the rising sun.
Nudging Jim, “Hush,” I whispered sharply as he moved to stretch. “Do not move.”
Jim had good sense and looked about slowly and cautiously. “Mother of Pearl, what in the name of Hades is sett’n its eyes upon us,” he whispered.
Tee heard us, and then Dorothy.
Dorothy sat up abruptly and said, “What are they?”
As if staged, the scudding clouds that blocked the new day sun, stepped aside, unveiling the owners of those onerous eyes. Each set belonged to a wolf. From dark corners, shadowy ledges, and obscure pocks and pockets, big dark wolves surrounded us and the gorge behind us, cut us off from any possible retreat. I sat before my trembling legs collapsed from fear.
Dorothy gasped. Three great wolves approached slowly. The center one walked six hands ahead of the other two that flanked it. As they approached us boldly and in silent grace, my life raced before my eyes. Jack was at least two clicks out and we had no way to reach him. Therefore, we must choose between jumping into the Gorge or being ripped to pieces and eaten alive. With moistened eyes, I turned to Dorothy. How I loved her, her smile, bright brown eyes, and I wondered why the Kiss of the Northern Witch did not glow.

 

Peeky

 

 

 

Anna Sh

 

Peeky, Ok, I will likely bill half a price for the scene I sent as I struggled a bit with the composition and that took time. But let's first discuss the scene as you see it, so I can fully understand what you need, cos it seems the scene looks different in my head.

 

First of all, can you sent me a reference of what you mean by cave-like amphitheater? Because I can think of several types of landscapes that match the description. It would really help if you could show me the type of caves you think about.

 

The Dawn - in my plan the lighting and coloring supposed to be something like on the referenced pics (see attached), it's just difficult to represent in sketch. Was it the right thinking? Or the rising sun should be from the other side, so we actually do not see the sun, only it's light on the scene from foreground?

 

Did I understand it right now - !and that is very important! - the characters face us and the rising sun is behind their backs, while approaching three wolves are standing their backs to the camera?

 

Who exactly should be on the scene (except wolves) - Toto, Manticore, Jim. I believe Dorothy as well. But is there also Tee (remember, I have very vague idea who he is)?

 

About "landscape scene with a lot of territory". Well, that's how I tried to do it from the beginning, but didn't like it for several reasons:

 

- first of all, as I understand from the text that going to be on the image, the illustration is about actions of Manticore and Toto, who kinda stand up to the wolves. The problem here is that Toto is so small, that if we zoom out to show the landscape, Toto appears to be hardly indentifyable there among other large characters. I hate this because I feel like the whole scene is about him.

 

- when I zoom out to show the scene in general, it looses the "spookiness" of the moment as we are not into the scene, but looking from aside if you understand what I mean. Though this issue I can try to fix with dramatic lighting or something. Still, if you want it to be broader landscape, not close up, I will definitely try to do my best.

 

Manticore is iron, got it.

 

I will start the Wizard Memory scene so far to work parallel on both.

 

 

 

 

Jul, 20 Peeky

 

I will get back with you on this. Your billing is fine. I will try to ans today, late

 

Peeky

 

Jul, 21 Peeky

 

good evening Anna I hope all is well. very good questions and hopefully I can answer them well enough not to waste anymore of your time. I have included a picture of a cavern with an opening that is similar to what I am shooting for. The three wolves would be coming through the opening toward the characters. The gorge would be behind them which is where the dawn is coming through.

 

I have included two other images of cave Interiors that are multi level and very uneven-irregular which allow for wolves to perch and partly hide behind. This will also provide a multi-dimensional setting where eyes could appear from various levels within the cavern.

 

I love the sunrise in the image you sent...you really make me think...it hurts to think this much... To capture the sunrise, part of the cavern, the hiding wolves, the characters, and the approaching wolves what do you think about this.

 

Say the viewer or audience is viewing the scene from one side of the cavern. They can see the sunrise on one side lighting up the cavern, v various wolves hiding on the one side of the cavern, toto, Jim, and the manticore toward the center of the scene and the three wolves approaching toward the manticore. I suppose if you show all of this you also have to show Dorothy and Tee. I am attaching an image of Tee

 

In this scene, we need no text.Here is a description of the area where the sun would be coming through... so the area they land is the wide part of the amphitheater where the sun comes in and it narrows where the wolves come in

 

Background….from the back of a jumberello the comrades and their captain are looking for a place to disembark - an opening in a sheer mountainous wall of granite. They land in a large half-dome shaped opening in the side of this sheer mountain. So the area behind them is a fast opening that drops into a gorge and from the inside of this dome-like cave, looking back, all one can see is open sky, distant mountains, and jumberello. The portions of the story detail the appearance of the cave. The characters that you might choose to show are Jim, Dorothy, Toto, and the Manticore. I can provide an image of the manticore I needed. What we want here is a spooky scene of the comrades awakening to eyes and shadowy ghostly images of wolves. There are to be two scenes. One with text and one without. The one with uses the yellow highlight at the end of this document

 

Peeky

 

 

 

 

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Hello,

 

Yes, please, I very much want to see, or know who is in these scenes, and what they look like, even if I end up not using them.

 

Good point. For a lot of scenes, focusing on certain members of the group is best. Using a large group makes for a less attractive print-type illustration, imo--but not always though. 'Very much depends on the scene dynamic.

 

I have one idea that would just focus on the plants.

 

OK, I will await one more note from you with further description, and then rough sketch ideas will begin.

 

Thanks,

 

~Ryan

 

PS__Frys has determined that the USB 3/3.1 ports WILL NOT function without a motherboard revision...SIGH...So, 2 weeks from now, if MSI agrees, I will very likely have to have the board swapped in. I am CROSSING MY FINGERS that I won't have to re-install Windows and my software for the umpteenth time. 

 

 

This is the dialog between us from a bit before the date of Hire, May 20, 2017 until now.   I have an assistant who will add the images over the next week or so by the appropriate date.  After that, it will be updated daily.

 

May, 20

Peeky

Thank you very much for responding. This is the first opportunity I've had to look at your work. My real job has been killing me. I will check out your portfolio and be back in touch. My real job is still hectic, but I wanted to acknowledge my appreciation of your willingness to participate.

 

May, 21

Peeky

Greetings Flan

 

I like your work and willing to give you a try. I am interested in seeing what you can do on drafting one character and one scene. 

 

Please review some of the remaining characters and scenes that I provided in my proposal. If the other terms of my offer are acceptable, select one character and one scene. Tell me what you will charge for each.

 

Thank you. I will respond by Friday, at the latest,  if you email me before then.

 

Peeky

 

May, 23

Fland

Hi Peeky,

Thanks for contacting me back. I would choose the scene 'Chickens and Chess' and the character Queen Quillana/Black Witch of the West.

 

I would charge XXX USD for a finished scene illustration and XXX USD for a character concept art (including all revisions).  What do you think? Is that reasonable?

 

You can create milestone payments after the first draft (XXX USD), after the final drawing (XXX USD) and the coloration (XXX USD) which sums up to 100 USD. But that's just an idea, if you have another method that works for you I'm totally fine with discussing it.

 

Cheers, Levi

 

May 23

 

Peeky

That is fine if you can set that up. You have the picture of Dorothy and Toto in the proposal material I provided for you to bid on. Yes?

 

You may begin once you get the details set up in Guru. If there is something I need to do in Guru, when I should, please tell me so I do not slow us down. I look forward to working with you. Thank you.

 

 

Peeky

 

 

May, 23

Fland

Hi,

 

I changed my quote to a total of 130 USD with the milestones of XXX USD for the character of the witch and XXX USD for the scene of 'Chickens and Chess'. I set the deadline to 31th of May (it will depend on the revisions and such, we'll see).

 

Yes the Dorothy concept art was attached and Toto can be seen on two scene illustrations (the characer concept of Toto is not there but he is visible on the scenes).

 

So I think it's all set for this first trial project of us for the one scene and the one character. You should now just accept my bid/award me the project.

 

If everything will be going well we'll have to create another project for the next illustrations and characters to come but that's a later discussion. Also we'll have to discuss the printing in more detail.

 

For now let's try this first two illustrations, but I'm positive it'll work out.

Thanks again for the opportunity

 

May, 23

Peeky

I will be back in my office later on and I will execute the agreement. Thank you for handling this.

 

Expect delays, out of the office,  when responses are sent from my iPhone-

 

May, 24

Fland

I accepted the project (thanks) and I'm going to start working on the first draft tomorrow. Is there anything you'd like to add to the scene or the character that I definitively need to know?

 

Or any detail you'd certainly want me to incorporate into the illustrations? Any vision you have regarding them.

 

Or should I just create the sketch independently and you'll add your thoughts ideas afterwards?

 

May, 26

Peeky

What character are you choosing?  Did I include the description of that character as a word file in my job description? ( I have too much going on). As far as the fountain, I described that as best I could. Take it from there and give it the best of your imagination.  I do like crisp details and nothing resembling a cartoon.  There are a number of creatures to create on each level of the fountain - do your best and send me questions.

 

Peeky

 

 

May, 26

 

Fland

I chose the 'Chickens and Chess' scene and yes I have the description for the 'Black Witch of the West' character. I'll do my best. Thanks, Levi

 

May, 30

 

Fland

Hi Peeky,

 

I finished the first draft of Queen Quillana. What do you think?

 

Levi

 

May, 30

 

Peeky

Really good! Two suggestions. I can't believe I did not include this in the description! She is dark skinned - African. So that requires a change as does her shorts or pants or underwear. Shorts are OK, but maybe the rugged outdoorsie type with pockets and such. Something someone might wear when hiking...here is a link to something that would work.

 

Women's Hiking Shorts

 

Sorry I was not clear. This is very good. You may invoice me for this upon those changes.

 

 

Peeky

 

 

May, 30

 

Fland

Hi,

 

No worries, I made the changes. Hope you'll like it. If you have any suggestions for the Chickens and chess scene let me know.

 

 Levi

 

Jun, 3

 

Fland

Hi Peeky,

 

Here's the first draft for the 'chickens and chess' scene.

 

I wasn't sure what characters should appear on the illustration. In the description there is Dorothy, Toto, Jim, a woman (who's talking about the Oziian chickens), Scarecrow and a kid present.

 

I illustrated a dining scene where the conversation takes place among these characters. In the background there's a window opening to the garden with the chickens.

 

But the chickens also appear in the foreground which is a more abstract illusion like area where the dining table turns into a chess board and the chickens are the chess figures.

 

The wall in the kitchen also covered with black and white tiles (imitating a chess board).

 

What do you think? How should I change/improve the scene?

 

Cheers, Levi

 

Jun, 4

 

Peeky

 

Greetings Levi, this is quite interesting and good.  In fact, it helped me work out much of  the scene in my head.

 

I am attaching an image of Jim. If you recall my previous scenes I always add some of the text from the story pertinent to the scene.   I am thinking we need  a lion's share of the scene to be dedicated to the chickens.  We may only need one two or three characters looking out the window at the chicken's doing their thing.

 

The chickens should have expressions that make them seem intelligent even though the are actively engaged in an activity that makes them look stupid.  Such as intense focus, contemplative, One eye with a raised brow and a cocked head.  I have attached some images of chicken facials depicting expressions.

 

Consider this, Levi, for the layout of the scene

 

Picture a large tree stump between two chairs. A chess set  rests on the stump as if it were a table.  Some of the pieces are scattered, a couple have fallen to the ground. A chicken stands on one chair and scrutinizes one of the chess pieces.  Another chicken is standing on the chess board pecking at a pieces that it is holding between its feet or holding with one foot.  Maybe another chicken is chasing a chicken with a chess piece in his mouth.

 

The following seems like a lot of text, but I do not know how else to convey

 

Woman speaking “like a good chess player, a chicken thinks ahead. By the time they peck, they  know where next to step, look, and peck again. In fact, two of our chickens can think four to six moves ahead and that requires a bodacious amount of focus.

Jim: if you include him - his demeanor: Jim bobbed his head and plucked at his chin. A thoughtful demeanor settled upon his face as his brains kicked in. With steepled brows and a knowing nod, he battled the inner conflict caused by the woman’s assessment of Ozian chickens and Jim’s years of experience with Omaha chickens.

 

Text for Image:

Now that you put this focus thing before me,in looking back, my Omaha chickens was likely every bit as smart as some of my neighbors. Now I regret looking down at ‘em for eat’n bugs and such.”

 

You are welcome to review the Word file and comment or suggest. Also, did you get my email about Queen Quinella wearing hiking shorts instead of the current outfit. I sent a link in the email that had the color change...at least I hope I did.  No hurry and not urgent.

 

 

 

Peeky

 

 

 

 

Jun, 4

Fland

Hi,

 

Yes, I got your email regarding the changes of the character's short and skin color and I sent the new version on the next day I think (002.jpg). But I'm attaching again just in case. Or do you feel her shorts still need changing? Let me know.

 

I will start working on the scene based on your new description. If the chickens are in the focus then I'll put the 3 characters in the background. Are they watching the chickens from a simple rural house? Let me know if there's any important detail about the house or it's surroundings that I need to consider,

 

Thanks, Levi

 

Jun, 5

 

Peeky

No to the house or surroundings,  the expressions of the characters is important...as is the chickens.  Thank you and sorry about my confusion over the shorts.

 

Jun, 15

 

Fland

Hi Bob,

 

Here's the sketch for the chickens and chess scene. Tell me what you think.

 

Cheers, Levi

 

Jun, 18

 

Peeky

I love it. I like the expressions on the chickens. You did a great job with the characters. Jim looks better than ever, but Now we have to give it some brain power as to how to unclutter it to make room for some text.  Having said that - it is so much better than anything I could have  imagined.

 

What if we get rid of Dorothy, Toto, the woman in the middle, and the chair to the far left that the chicken is sitting on.

 

The front right chicken at the bottom - all of the big ones have great expressions. The first at the bottom left - the wooden thing beneath it is distracting because it can't be defined.  The claws of the center chicken are hugely disproportionate and add to the mystery of the wooden thing.  Perhaps if you bring the center  chicken  toward the center and back, giving the bottom two some breathing room - that would be good.  With the one chicken in the chair removed, you could make the two playing chess a bit larger and show some of the pieces misplaced and a bit askewed.  The text could go where the two women were....

 

I still love it. You are quite clever, Levi!

 

Peeky

 

 

Jun, 26

 

Peeky

did u quit on me?

 

Jun, 28

 

Fland

Hi Bob,

 

I didn't quit on you, I just didn't see your previous message until now in my mail. I will get to the changes in a few days.

 

However I would keep the chicken on the bottom left, since I think it's an important part of the illustration. The wooden thing and the huge fingers and claws will be less of a mystery once it's get colored.

 

Actually it's a chess pawn's head (the wooden thing) and the reflection of the chicken holding it (big claws). This is the chicken whoes point of view the image was taken from. As if the viewer/the reader would be one of the chickens her/himself as well.

 

I hope you'll reconsider deleting this part of the image. Of course I will do it if you insist.

 

The rest of the characters I will get rid of as you suggested and I will make the ones playing chess bigger.

 

Regards, Levi

 

Jun, 28

 

Peeky

Go ahead and leave that piece.  If I do not think it will work after the fact, maybe you can give me a break on a redo. You are the one with the vision and I do not want to miss out by being stubborn. Glad u r still on it!

 

Peeky

 

Gig Posting for New Artists for Remaining Twelve Scenes - Wizardwasodd.com - Books one and two.

Peeky

 

Greetings Ryan, glad to see your reaction on these scenes...

 

In the Valley scene, with the emphasis on the abandoned village and valley horrors (plants or whatever they are), I feel you can get by with Jim holding Toto and Dorothy next to him. I will have a rendering of Tee which I can likely find by Monday and will include images of the others as follows. Fyi - I do not have an image of toto except in  scenes. - also the same with the wolf - which you could also add to the scene if you like as he leads the group (Beo) i is in the vegan valley scene.

 

Toto is in the Kiss of the Witch and Vegan Valley

 

As an aside, in the book some of the vines do have serpent eyes of varied rich hues with vertical serpent-like pupils.

 

Have a good weekend!

 

Peeky

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Whooooaaaaah,

 

Crazy. I like it. It's very much a "horror" mini-part of your series.

 

I probably won't be able to hold back from rough sketching even before Monday, if I have any chance at all. What exactly was coming out of that stump? Was it the early form of a new vine, er? 'Very cool.

 

I have all of the materials from your original Guru post downloaded and I will have them printed. But, do I truly have all of the visual reference that I need for the characters who are present?

 

I definitely want the pre-existing illustrations of characters that you consider successful depictions...If any are not, then I would like to know what I could change for the better.

 

In these scenes, collectively, we seem to have:

 

Toto  - (does he have any visual details at this point (example: a special collar or handkerchief) What is your favorite depiction of Toto for your series thus far and why? What is your favorite depiction of Toto from pre-existing media (the movies / or other art) and why?

 

Dorothy  - (how is she dressed here?) What is your favorite depiction of Dorothy for your series thus far and why? What is your favorite depiction of Dorothy from pre-existing media (the movies / or other art) and why?

 

Jim - (is there any visual reference of Jim? I appear to need a full description)

 

Beo - Is this the name of the wolf? (is there any visual reference ofBeo? I appear to need a full description)

 

The Large Wolf - (Beo?) Who is the large wolf, and does it have any clothing or props? (Anything is possible in Oz!) He or she?

 

Tee - (is there any visual reference of Tee? I appear to need a full description)

 

Scrobins - (is there any visual reference of Scrobins? I appear to need a full description

 

*If I have missed something that you have already posted, then I apologize.

 

I may share some VERY early scratchy sketching (reminder attached). Please understand that my final work will always be on-par with the final work throughout my portfolio.

 

Neato stuff!

 

~Ryan

 

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Hi Peeky,

 

Thank you for being sympathetic. When my insomnia gets this bad, I just try to go to sleep one hour later each day, until it comes back around, and then I try try try to maintain "normal" for as long as possible.

 

Yes! You are right. Windows Restore has helped me a few times already. What troubles me is that I often have no idea what went wrong though, so I am having problems actually improving and killing the bugs. I know about 1/2 of what's left is hardware-related, and I doubt MSI is going to fix their USB 3.1 driver issues. Another problem is that my system refuses to cleanly restart. It always hangs at restart. I have even downloaded the Windows Performance Analyzer but I can't see what's doing that.

 

I attempted to change some language to reflect what you've mentioned...

 

The clause you asked to be stricken was only ever there to prevent the art from being resold as "Stock" art, which is something I feel strongly about, but I changed the language.

 

Physical delivery means that some clients want me to burn a bunch of archival DVD-Rs at my expense and time, without pay for it, and mail them, so no worries there since you are not asking for that, as far as I remember. I acknowledge here, and it is acknowledged twice in the contract that you want hard copies of printed revisions, and that your finals are digitally-delivered in various formats.

 

If this is the final contract, please sign and return, either digitally, or via mail to:

 

Ryan Durney

 

Cool! I look forward to working on these. I will happily work on any of them, but the stranger ones, with monsters or way-out stuff sound great.

 

Thanks, Peeky,

 

~Ryan

 

PS__It just so happens that one, I *might* drop my computer back to be looked over, while 2, we might go see my parents this weekend, so I would not be able to begin until Monday at the soonest, most likely, but if you are mailing a check and the contract, then that would work about the same anyway.

 

ProjectPlan_Bob_Moyer_WizardWasOdd_RDurney__07_09_17____2E.pdf

 

Peeky

 

Greetings Ryan,

 

In addition to the contract, I am sending you money as I have your email address.  I have picked out the three creepy weird ones for you.

 

Two scenes have Firewalkers.  One file has their description. Another file has their description and a scene with three of them fighting. - this scene takes place in a hellish valley. I would hope the scene could capture the desolation and mood of where they are...

 

Another firewalker scene is where one hovers over Toto and Dorothy and strikes. - this is an upclose scene

 

The third scene is probably self explanatory but if you have questions as to the scope - holler - it is supposed to be a horrific scene. See what you can do.

 

I am not sending you jpg samples of the existing characters as those images are shown in the Guru Specs for this gig.

 

2Overgrown_Bantam_Village.docx

 

2Firewalkers_Toto.docx

 

Firewalkers_-_Description_of_firewalkers_and_scene.docx

 

Firewalkers_Description_of_Firewalkers.docx

 

Ryan_Durney_Contract.pdf

 

 

Peeky

 

I too suffer from insomnia, Ryan. It really sucks.  With my last artist, he agreed to furnish all drafts with his initials. Getting through the fourth scene was tough as there was friction and I had decided to move on. At that time I asked for all drafts as I had not done so before, but he wanted to pick the best and wanted a lot of money.  So this is why I got so picky with the language.

 

I have no time or inclination to micro-manage. You will do the work timely and we will work together  or we won't. I too will never ignore you but it often takes me a day or two to put my thoughts together on a draft.  Not being inclined to hold up a project, I will not take longer and if I do, bug me. Perhaps I did not get the email.

 

On your computer - you can go to your control panel and look for "restore", you can restore to an earlier update in Windows quite easily without losing any data.  We do updates at our office and some make a huge mess.  The process takes about a half hour.  You can also set a restore point on your computer - a date where it is working very well. Then later when it gets buggy you can go back and restore to that point.  I am not software savvy, but this is very easy with lots of internet instructions.

 

Regarding the agreement, Ryan, my concerns, very few, are as follows:

 

I would like this  clause removed as it would restrict my rights to sell my book to a publisher or other entertainment driven entity.

 

Client is forbidden to resell the Work to be used as illustration in another project by a new Client / Third Party / Vender. If Client wishes to make any additional uses of the Work, Client shall seek permission from the Illustrator and pay an additional fee to be agreed upon at that time.

 

The next two sentences seem to be double billing ad require clarification.

 

Physical Delivery Materials: (Example: DVD-R Mailing of Final File $XXX  plus shipping.

 

ions for revisions as follows: Upon full payment, each wave of revised final must be printed (common type of color printing, 8.5 x 11), numbered, dated and signed. $XXX in printing and postage fees, per scene is to be paid to the artist for this

 

Agreed-Upon Use(s): (Example: Book) - add limited edition prints...

 

I have three scenes involving the Wizard and sample drawings of the wizard. I will forward these to you along with payment by paypal upon your modification-clarification.

 

thx.

 

b

 

Peeky

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Hi Peeky,

 

I did my best to hybridize our agreement into a form that works for both of us. I hope you can see that I spent hours doing so--however, I must say again that I am no lawyer and my attempts, though in earnest, may not be legally sound.

 

In the end, it is my opinion that all problems are 9/10 a communication breakdown or expectations that have jumped the gun.

 

With a calm conversation almost any disagreement of terms can be mitigated.

 

It is my feeling that we can do together what I have done with hundreds of other clients, and simply get good work done that you can use, hopefully.

 

Maybe it's a good time to go over a few personal details:

 

a) I am typically in studio, working from about 10 AM - 2 AM through the week, with breaks for this and that, and swimming / exercise toward the 7 - 10 evening hours.

 

b) I do work on weekends, but it's at my behest (with a break as my main goal) and usually Saturday "mornings" (my version of morning shifts due to insomnia (see below)) and Sunday afternoons until evening. You are always free to call me then, from 2 - 11 PM, just as you are through the week.

 

c) **I will never willfully ignore any communication from you, whether it's email or phone calls, however, when I am deeply into my work, I often purposely unplug and turn off my phone for several hours.

 

d) I suffer from a true insomnia that can kick up without any provocation or stress, leaving me to have what some people feel are very strange or inconvenient work hours. I apologize for any delays caused by this. For example, I am currently awake until 1 PM at this time. I assure you I have little control over this condition. AS far as insomnia goes, I am the real deal...not the guy who just stays up too late binge-watching Netflix.

 

e) I don't take vacations often, but about once a month, my wife and I visit family for about 3 days at a go. If any longer vacations come up, it is my intent to give you notice.

 

f) My workstation is a very big deal for me...My new computer (#2 of the new machines) is working, but has bugs which I believe are due to moving to Windows 10. I am working on this every day, and may still have some technical delays due to these issues. I may even have to resubmit my machine one last time (hopefully) for servicing some of these issues, and may lose 3 days or so. (I would have to ostensibly add 3 days to my deadlines in times like that)...I hope I don't have to, very much.

 

I thought of one thing I need from you when you choose the 3 scenes...

 

If I am re-imagining a character that another artist tried and could not capture, to your hopes, please do forward the attempts, and let me know what you would like to have changed about them.

 

Thanks, Peeky,

 

Let me know if we're there,

 

~Ryan

 

ProjectPlan_Bob_Moyer_WizardWasOdd_RDurney__07_09_17____2D.pdf

 

 

Peeky

 

good afternoon Ryan, I never expected or would have asked for free samples. Your existing art is good enough. I will provide you with three of the images. I was hoping that you could get through all of them in a month or so, but I guess there are too many. I look forward to your new contract.

 

Peeky

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Peeky,

 

I will respond tomorrow with a mock contract addendum, for your approval. Then we can go from there.

 

I believe I would have the solid time to work in 3 images between now and mid-August, especially if we start immediately. I definitely cannot do any unpaid samples, though. I apologize for that.

 

Also, I am loathe to mention that I am still breaking in this new computer, and all time promises are contingent on it not going to the shop for the 3rd time! (Haha, grrrrr).

 

Thanks, kindly

 

~Ryan

 

 

Peeky

 

Greetings Ryan, I see the problem in communication. I sent this list to you on June 26 to your hotmail. Should have added it in Guru which I include now.  You have a number of other items in your last email, but if we agree on these then lets move forward on the rest.  Please do me a favor though, I am doing some sample drawings with two other artists.  You have the most experience and I would love to see what you can do, but if you are too busy to give this your attention in the near future, just let me know and I will come back when I am writing book 3.

 

Other Terms and Conditions.

 

...I am to own unconditionally all drafts and final scenes outright, free and clear, once you are paid.

 

...Each final scene will need to be provided in the following formats, jpeg, tif, and pdf and with a preferred density of 300 dpi or with sufficient pixels (where applicable) to print a pristine image of 24 x 30 inches.

 

...Furthermore, I require that you print each scene revision no smaller than A4 or 8.5 X 11", number it, enter its creation date, and initial/sign it

 

...In addition, to your fee for creating each scene, I will pay $XXX to cover your cost of printing and first class mailing of all revisions, be it one or ten revisions for each completed scene which need not be printed on archival paper.

 

...You will get credit for your art on my website, WizardWasOdd.com or Oziian.com (Wizard Was Odd Squad) and in any and all digital and printed books. You may write your own bio for Oziian.com and include whatever art you might have created before working with me that you believe might help your career or promote your talents. I reserve the right to edit and restrict the amount of downloads and any art that might be deemed risque or inappropriate for children

 

...You understand and agree that I reserve the right to work with multiple artists.

 

...To increase my social media presence in the promotion of my Kickstarter platform, I intend to use our Guru interaction as it pertains to the development and finalization of characters and scenes.  I any fees requested, agreed upon, or paid. This exposure will likely present you with opportunities from others and will allow you to charge accordingly.  Nor will I publish our cost of Giclee prints and your portion if separately stated for signing, numbering, and possibly stamping.  Fees will show as $XXX.

 

...If you are unable to complete the next draft of an image within four days of the date that you estimate, you are to provide me with notice and an estimated completion date. If that is unacceptable to me, I will have the right to re-assign the art to another artist.

 

...If for any reason I am unsatisfied with a preliminary sketch, I reserve that right to cancel or reassign that image and will pay you one quarter of what your final billing for that completed scene would have been.

 

...If I am satisfied with the preliminary, and unsatisfied with the final color scene, then I will pay half of what your final billing for that completed scene would have been. I am not permitted to use your rejected scenes as limited edition art or as images within the  books. If I later do decide to do so, you will be paid the balance of your fees.

 

...You will be paid within ten business days of when I am billed by Guru (seldom if ever will you have to wait this long).

 

...You agree to oversee the printing, signing, and numbering (possibly stamping) the limited edition prints within thirty (30) days of my request.  You understand that the future demand of any limited edition prints come from Kickstarter Patrons from all over the world who have advanced funds to acquire these prints and therefore, you are indirectly working with and have a responsibility to provide the signed art agreed upon to what could be hundreds of international patrons of the arts.

 

In closing, I look forward to working with you, Ryan. Ask any questions and as we work together, if I am slow to respond, feel free to bug me. I shall do my best to be responsive. Send me your artist agreement incorporating this language so we can get started!

 

 

Peeky

 

Peeky - Great cover art, Ryan - looking forward to working with you!

 

I am putting what we discussed and agreed to in a bullet point format and will provide that to you later today.

 

Regarding the blog - be yourself - people will hire you for you as much as for your art. Nothing wrong with emotion.

 

I like the idea of you getting through the existing scenes quickly. I have a couple more to present and will provide details in the near future.

 

If all of this works out, I have no problem bumping you 20% on the last book.  And yes you will be paid on time for your work as it is completed I will be forward the agreement later.

 

On Sat, Jun 24, 2017 at 4:35 PM, Ryan Durney  wrote:

 

As for the phases, Phase 1 is just the sketch (anywhere from fairly rough to more finished, depending on the scope) and Phase 2 is the final color work (low res until approved, and then once the balance in paid, all high resolution formats of that image are uploaded to you). (attached is one example).

 

"Interior" just means any illustration inside of a book, as opposed to the cover imagery. What is the technical differences? Cover artwork used to mean that it came at the very end of a project, when the look and feel of the interior of the book had already been established, therefore, if a cover wrap was commissioned, it was paid higher and expected that it would be even more polished than the interior art. It also meant that title type had to be balanced with it, as well as spine and back cover design. A lot goes into a good cover. Nowadays, people are apt to want to save money on a book, and 9/10 they ask me to repurpose an interior piece of art for the cover. That's a valid method, too. I sometimes get x3 the payrate for cover art, and always if I am hired for only a cover, since covers take longer and an artist has to conjure the look and feel of the interior story from thin air (especially if it's type-only, in the interior).  I attached a couple of jobs where I was hired for the cover only. They average 30-40 hours of my time, or more.

 

One thing I was wondering, was, if a scene is a single-page (a vertical composition) then you are still cool with that being blown up as an art print, right? Since every scene is potentially a print, then it's OK that some are vertical as opposed to horizontal ratios?

 

Peeky - As long as they print out hi-res at 16 X 20 (A3), do what looks best

 

Ryan -Sounds good.

 

The box checked was for "exclusive" rights, which means that you will own the copyright as sole, once the balance due is paid in full. The only rights I retain are to be able to show the work to promote myself for future jobs (attachments / portfolio websites, etc).

 

Peeky - Ok, I want u 2 use it 2 your benefit

 

Ryan - Thank you.

 

So, I think you are suggesting that we stay in Guru, instead of regular channels? That's OK. It's been a while for me to actually work inside of Guru, so bear with me as I don't even remember how that works, nor what has changed.ok,

 

Peeky - 2 max our exposure for Kickstarter, I would like to use our Guru interactions in a blog. I would never show what you charge or the costs of giclee. That info would show as $XXX.

 

Ryan - You can use informative stuff like the above, when I prattle on about illustration, haha. Please don't use anything that might make me look unprofessional to potential new clients. I try to stay professional at all times.

 

Peeky - The blog would include earlier communication and show all of the wonderful art that you shared with me. You can also add your bio and any art in THE WIARD WAS ODD SQUAD IN OZIIAN.COM AKA WIZARDWASODD.COM.

 

Ryan - I will gladly participate in any marketing between one commission with you, and a potential new commission from you...that is the best time to remind me, otherwise, I need to be like a laser, straight through a project as best I can, and not divide my attention too much (this is my shortcoming--I am not good at juggling marketing on the side). But yes, I will participate if you remind me.

 

Peeky - The favor I ask is that when you get more work from others from this marketing, that u work as closely with me as yo can with my art. Once Kick is successful, and it will be because I have been paying a social media company for over a year now, I will be facing some deadlines plus there will be a third book to complete the trilogy which will require more art.

 

Ryan - Even if I get a rush of interest, if you treat me well and the balance is paid on time, I will be forever faithful.

 

Peeky -  the Giclee prints look like they will cost between $XXX and $XXX. if you will accept $XX per print the sign and stamp and number and review make sure they are high quality then I believe we have a deal and can move forward. 

 

Ryan - Yes, if that's on par with the other artists, then it suits me too.

               

OnDrawnWings

 

'Sounds good, Peeky,

 

As always, I appreciate any time you're able to put in, to move us forward.

 

I am working as many hours as I can, to clean up my schedule for July. I am not 100% sure how "clean and neat" it will be, as far as being done on July 1st with current contracts, but it should work out very close to that. There will be some discussion involved with those clients, so that's why I am not sure yet.

 

Thanks,

 

~Ryan

               

Peeky

 

Thank you!

 

Peeky   

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

That's great of you, Peeky,

 

This past month, a couple clients came back with added assignments and paid for some edits/add ons. I am still finishing all of that up, and it feels like 24/7, but I would be thrilled to spend July with your project, at least, if not more.

 

~R

               

Peeky

 

OK - I am satisfied with the quality of Giclee Today. I will review your agreement and response and get back with you before the weekend is over.

 

Peeky   

 

 

Peeky

 

Greetings Ryan, what didn't you like about Giclee Today?

 

Also, what are you hoping to make personally per piece for signing and stamping - this will help me determine a price point. I understand shipping and such is extra. I am thinking that there could be hundreds. and so if I am paying $XXX -$XXX and paying you $XXX  per piece, it would be about $XXX per piece that would still work.

 

I

 

Peeky  

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Hey Peeky,

 

(Sorry for the later response, some extra work popped up with finishing another contract, and I had to burn the midnight oil again)

 

Your figures above are spot-on imo. When I get home from walking my dog, I will look at Giclee Today again. I don't have any problems with that equation.

 

~R

               

Peeky

 

Ok, I have put in a phone call to them to make sure I know what we are getting. I will review your email with all of the detail of had to do with your contract and hopefully we can get started! Thank you for your patience.

 

Expect delays, out of the office,  when responses are sent from my iPhone-

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Sorry, I was out of my studio last night,

 

I was thinking  16" x 20 " or roundabout for my work.

 

I am in Austin, TX., and have ruled out a number of downtown print shops, including Agave, Ginny's, and Miller Imaging and also ruled out several online printers: Atelier, GicleeToday, ProImaging, and Finerworks. Local Giclee Printer, "Skyline" does it, but appears to be too pricey, and does not have bright white, semi-matte smooth-type art papers (which is what I would want--the satin / smooth / low rag texture / low "tooth") and also doesn't show volume discounts.

 

As for my go-to online Giclee printer, whom I've used before, I mean to say " PictureSalon.com ." Tom and Barbara are the owners / operators, and their # is:  888 - 833 - 1102

 

They have done some pretty good work for me in the past.

 

I appreciate your help and expertise. I'm sorry to cost you time on this, but if you find leads that I didn't, I don't mind calling them or whatever.

 

Thanks,

 

~Ryan

               

Peeky

 

I appreciate your patience! It will work out.  Tell me about the print size you are speakin of 16 x 20.  How much is border?  How and where do you number each print. Where do you sign?  Also you mentioned a stamp.  Can you send me a pic of it or a pic with it?

 

Also - to be clear you have quoted me various ranges.  These per print prices also include you numbering and signing, stamping, etc - correct?

 

Peeky  

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Hi again,

 

I will stamp a poster print of mine tomorrow, to show you what that looks like, because I want you to see the metallic ink and all that.

 

16 x 20 just seemed like a good fit for me--not too big / not too small. I am open on that front.

 

The prices I sent did include the stamping and numbering. Everything but potential shipping costs.

 

~R

               

Peeky

 

I had time to read about the various sources you went to to check out the printing. I really appreciate that!.

 

Expect delays, out of the office,  when responses are sent from my iPhone-

 

 

Peeky

 

Ryan,  I really want to try to work with you but I can't understand what you do not understand. You have sent me another marketing blip. So they have different paper types, and used with a particular ink it can be archival. This says nothing about what you are selling to me.   YOu must have an idea as to how many ink types that ink company produces...The other artists I am working with have about % of your experience and and they get it and are able to provide me specs.  Why won't you?  This is an opportunity for you to really make some money and get some powerful recognigition - I am spending a grand a month on social media.  You can ride the wave or catch the undertow - it is your call but I am running out of patience.  I think you would be a great addition and we would be a fantastic team but if we can;t speak English...what more can I say.

 

Peeky

               

Jun, 16 OnDrawnWings

 

Peeky,

 

My go-to (other than the local) Giclee archival print provider was / is "PrintSalon.com." They have been doing this the longest in the US, as archival print producers and they are one of the most popular. I asked them for their specs, and they sent me the above. I am only sending to you, what they send to me.

 

I am interested in working with you, but I have never had to research archival ink and paper before. I have completed 80 published books successfully, but I am not utilizing print sales, so this is not my versed area at the moment (granted, it's an avenue I would like to pursue).

 

But I have spent time looking for other providers.

 

If your other artists have figured it out, why not ask them, or allow me to ask them, who they are using and I will do the same?

 

There really aren't that many official-looking archival print providers in the US. I found about 15 decent-looking establishments, and most of them are priced far beyond what your initial quote was, from the Ukrainian artist. Many do not offer volume discounts, at least not on their site.

 

You could also try giving me a hardware, ink and paper combination that you approve of, and I will search that way, if you like?

 

~Ryan

               

Peeky

 

OK I will work on it. Give me the phone number or your contact for the local one you use and for  print salon or I can just call them directly,  You are quoting size A3 correct?

 

Peeky  

 

Peeky

 

What city do you live  in? Or some big nearby cities

 

Peeky   

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

HI Peeky,

 

I got another reply:

 

Prices for Print Size: 16 x 20 inches

 

x50 prints:  $XXX ($XXX / per print)

 

x100 prints:  $XXX ($XXX / per print)

 

When I pressed for details, here is what I got about their paper, inks. I think they use a similar setup to the other quote:

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

"Canon U.S.A. Introduces Three New Premium Fine Art Papers Ideal for Professional Photographers

 

Key Features Include Rich Color Reproduction, Longevity and Detailed Expression of Gradation

 

 MELVILLE, N.Y., October 18, 2016 – Photographers have a wide range of paper options when printing their work and choosing the right paper to match the work is key to professional and amateur photographers alike. Canon U.S.A., Inc., a leader in digital imaging solutions, continues to show their commitment to the professional printing market by announcing today three new Premium Fine Art papers -- Premium Fine Art Smooth, Premium Fine Art Bright White and Premium Polished Rag. Designed to produce, rich-color reproduction, and detailed expression of gradation, these new papers will help photographers take their images to the next level and create works of art.

 

“Canon continues to be committed to our professional printing audience and these new papers are a great example of providing the tools needed to create great artwork,” said Yuichi Ishizuka, president and COO, Canon U.S.A., Inc. “Having a wide range of versatile media support for our printers allows users to choose the best paper to create their masterpiece.”

 

Premium Fine Art Smooth paper is designed to produce a deep, rich black by allowing the pigment to reside close to the surface of the paper. This line of paper separates the ink-receiving layers into a color-reproduction layer and an absorbing layer allowing more pigment to remain on the surface of the paper for a dramatically improved color reproduction. Premium Fine Art Smooth uses 100% cotton for the base and it does not contain lignin, a causative substance that can result in yellow discoloration. This is an acid-free paper suitable for archival prints and image longevity. Additionally, when using the newly optimized LUCIA PRO ink, users will realize deeper black density, detail gradation of shadow and increased image longevity. The new Premium Fine Art Smooth adopts "natural" for tone of color, and "smooth" for texture of paper surface. The combination of the thickness of the paper and the soft, tender texture of cotton achieves a luxurious feeling final product. This 310 gsm paper is available in cut sheet sizes as well as 17, 24, 36 and 44-inch roll sizes.

 

Premium Fine Art Bright White is a high-quality, 100% cotton, acid-free inkjet paper with a bright white tone that provides more visual contrast. The very smooth and silky surface lends itself to high-color consistency and gamut making it ideal for profound photographic prints and fine art reproductions. This 305 gsm media is available in 24, 36, 44 and 60-inch roll sizes."

 

Wilhelm Research on Canon Lucia inks permanence. 95 years if color and over 200 years if black and white under glass.

 

http://www.wilhelm-research.com/canon/iPF8300_Pr.html"

 

~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~~

 

What do you think, Peeky?

 

95 years under glass is about as good as it gets, as far as I know.

 

Kind regards,

 

~Ryan

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Hi Peeky,

 

Yeah--can you enlighten me on that, a bit?

 

When I've been setting my price per set of prints, I have merely been adding a couple hundred for my time signing and stamping, the cost of metallic ink and the cost of my custom stamp, etc. (I love doing them that way, though, with the stamping and custom touches)

 

Are you suggesting that I set the price higher, because you are offering these to a crowdfunding situation?

 

Maybe I am not understanding fully.

 

But yes, I will keep working with you on this, no problem.

 

Give me a little time to find some other contenders. I tried a local one that I wasn't aware of, but they do not seem apt.

 

~Ryan

               

Jun, 13 Peeky

 

Some of the other artists are having success finding sources that are able to produce prints in the range that I had worked out with my prior artist.  I am suggesting that I expect you to make a few bucks on each print and if I have to pay a few dollars more per print because You can't get a better price, then I will consider that. I do not want to pay more than I have to because then I have to charge more for Kickstarer.  But...

 

Peeky   

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Hi Peeky,

 

It says that you sent a message with an attachment, but all I see is a note from you saying, "See attached files."

 

Kind regards,

 

~Ryan

               

Peeky

 

Greetings Ryan, Did not send anything but glad you wrote as in checking I see my last email did not fly.

 

In any event, I researched the paper and ink for the better part of an hour. I did not find where the paper or the ink was archival. If I need to pay a little more for archival, I will surely consider that.

 

However, what ever it is someone tells you, it has to be verifiable and the internet has a number of printers.  you can also go to these two sites to see if papers and inks are archival. The article follows my text. In any event, I need  to know the type, mfg, weight, and description of the paper.  The ink is the same way.  I need specs.  Every ink mfg makes a variety of inks and though parts of the names are similar the other parts are not.

 

As fas as I am concerned this is the only thing holding us up.  P.S. I never heard of archival being 60 years either.

 

http://www.wilhelm-research.com/

 

http://www8.hp.com/h20195/v2/GetPDF.aspx/c04782376.pdf

 

Attachment

 

For photos: HP uses established, independent test labs such as Wilhelm Imaging Research to test ink and photo paper products. HP directly participates with industry standardization bodies, such as the International Organization for Standardization (ISO) , which develop procedures used to test and compare products. When independent testing isn’t possible, or the technology is so advanced that there isn’t an industry standard, HP develops its own set of tests based on extensive experience in photo printing technology and knowledge of how HP customers use photo prints. See Fade Resistance report (DOC 36KB) for more information on photo testing.

 

Archival Printing with HP Inkjet Printers – Producing prints that meet archival requirements – a technical white paper. Using HP Pigment Inks, HP inkjet printers produce durable prints that are suitable for applications requiring archival properties. Print durability is a key element in HP's ink and printer development programs, and the archival performance of prints made by HP inkjet printers has been certified by independent testing agencies. Learn about inkjet and dry electrophotography technologies, ink components, archival considerations for paper, durability and archival prints, and test methodologies and results.

 

fade-resistance.docx

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Well,

 

I can forward this to the print makers?

 

They say they get these kinds of questions.

 

Otherwise, I guess I'll have to find another Giclee company.

 

I'll get back to you when I hear something,

 

~R

               

Peeky

 

Thanks for hanging in there - but it is in your best interest as you can make more money off these than the art you create.

 

Peeky   

 

 

Peeky

 

See attached files(s)

OnDrawnWings

 

I got their reply, Peeky,

 

"We have Canon printers (9400, 8400) using archival water based pigment inks by Lucia Ink from Canon.   Our Fine Art Bright Paper is produced by Canon; 230 gsm, 100% cotton rag, archival, acid free.  Longevity of prints are 60+ years. "

 

They are a long-time Giclee company, in the US.

 

What'dya think?

 

~Ryan

               

Peeky

 

Let me check them out later this eve - no later than tomorrow.  THANK YOU!

 

Peeky   

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Hello Peeky,

 

It will take me some time to get a return message on the print info you requested, but I will try to do that right away.

 

As for the phases, Phase 1 is just the sketch (anywhere from fairly rough to more finished, depending on the scope) and Phase 2 is the final color work (low res until approved, and then once the balance in paid, all high resolution formats of that image are uploaded to you). (attached is one example).

 

"Interior" just means any illustration inside of a book, as opposed to the cover imagery.

 

One thing I was wondering, was, if a scene is a single-page (a vertical composition) then you are still cool with that being blown up as an art print, right? Since every scene is potentially a print, then it's OK that some are vertical as opposed to horizontal ratios?

 

The box checked was for "exclusive" rights, which means that you will own the copyright as sole, once the balance due is paid in full. The only rights I retain are to be able to show the work to promote myself for future jobs (attachments / portfolio websites, etc).

 

So, I think you are suggesting that we stay in Guru, instead of regular channels? That's OK. It's been a while for me to actually work inside of Guru, so bear with me as I don't even remember how that works, nor what has changed.

 

As for driving me crazy...I dunno? I value time and honest relationships. I aim to please whoever my director is, as long as I am being treated fairly. If I feel I am not being treated fairly, I will speak up. I think if you are willing to give me the quiet time between phases to complete the work, I will be happy. Since a lot of what you need is different from the norm, I guess just always remember that I may need to be guided through the steps the first time--as I get lost in the creative parts and may need to be reminded about the other steps you want. I've been doing this a long time.

 

OK, so I will work on getting the print specs verified, and post that here.

 

Kind regards,

 

~Ryan

 

 

 

 

Peeky

 

Greetings Ryan,

 

I see when I hit expand all, in this Guru messaging, that it does incorporate my text.  The text before  this one  is your email text to me outside of Guru. The message before this one looks like it came from me. Sorry to be confusing.

 

Now moving on to the Giclee and costs of production. I reviewed your prices and your art agreement.

 

In reference to price of the art per piece.  That is acceptable. If we work out the other aspects of this agreement, you can keep the discount to offset your Guru costs and if we work well which I expect we would as you want to be paid, then I will cover any other shortages due to Guru.

 

First, I must know the type of archival paper you will be using - its name, mfg, and verifiable archival life which should be on the web.  I also need to know specs and details of the ink and printer.  It also needs to be verifiable as archival.  Once we settle that, the terms of creation, pricing, etc are to be part of the agreement. I have no interest in the art if I can't work this part out.  It doesn't matter how beautiful it is.  And I believe you are capable of some dazzling stuff.

 

I also require that my terms and conditions be an addendum and there be a clause within the agreement stating that if there is any confusion and conflict between your boilerplate and my addendum, that the language in my addendum supersedes.

 

I am also unclear exactly what I get for phase 1 and phase 2. I understand the description of the work.  But exactly what phases of art is presented to me in Phase 1 and I see the final piece is provided low res in phase 2, but what do I get before the final. Also what is an interior scene?     You referred to it as something else somewhere else.

 

Finally - I have no interest in use rights, but sole ownership. I will grant you use rights.

 

Once we work this out, you can begin immediately on a sample scene. I will pay you $XXX, 200 down once you clarify the phases and lets see how we work together - I might drive you crazy.

 

Let me know and if I can't get back to you before the week end forgive me.

               

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Hello,

 

I'm having some prints done really soon (about 8-9 days yet), from a side-project of mine. I could send you one, so you can see the quality, and hey, maybe you will enjoy the print, too!

 

How would you like to proceed, if you are interested in working together?

 

One way would be, if you saw all of my responses in [ brackets above ] and my rate is in the ballpark, then I'd suggest that you assign two images that you really want done badly, or that you feel fit my style the most, and I could write a mock contract for those two? (There is no obligation for the mock contract. Partial payment initiates the work.)

 

By the way, I haven't worked through Guru in a long while. Does Guru take a % of my rate?

 

Thanks, Peeky,

 

~Ryan

               

Peeky

 

I am fine with your suggestion, but I do need archival prints. If I have to pay a bit more than I will. So will you please look into this?  If not, I will try to find one in driving distance of you and if not try to find one on the internet that will send you prints for your signature and such. However, I do not have the time now to research that and may not have it for a couple of weeks as my real job has me in alligators up to my knees.

 

So let me know on that or let me know you are looking into it. I did answer all of the questions in your email and about your fee. Did you get that email?

 

In any event, you can draft an agreement with my stipulations in it and lets see if we can proceed.

 

Peeky  

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Hmm...

 

I am fairly certain that I cannot see responses. It appears to be copy/pasted without responses. Plus, one message says "files attached" from you today but there isn't anything to view. Sorry to inconvenience you while you are busy.

 

Then, we could use colors to highlight our responses (something I do often). I tried using brackets but it's still a little confusing.

 

The prints are based on the printer's paperback cover process, and is for sure, for sure, archival. The paper is matte, and smooth. All I meant was that it's not rough paper or high tooth paper. But yes, definitely archival.

 

I can send you one, for your approval in a week or so, if you want to check it over.

 

~R

               

Peeky

 

Greetings Ryan,

 

If you would like to send me one, I will have it checked out as I would not know archival from poster since I rely on digital for my photo-shopping and pleasure in viewing.  But as long as it is archival, that would be good. I would need the type of ink and weight of the paper because it has meaning to people who have more of a professional  interest in their art.

 

I have sent you the two emails by regular email rather than Guru - they were bold and hilite green in the orig and in the regular sent just now.

 

Peeky   

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Hi Peeky,

 

Thanks for getting back to me.

 

(I have been on holiday a bit)

 

I will get my thoughts together by late tonight or tomorrow, and get back to you.

 

Kind regards,

~Ryan

 

OnDrawnWings

 

Hello Peeky,

 

'Hope you had a good extended weekend. Thanks for your interest in my work. I am a career illustrator, and derive my sole income from illustrating mostly books. I would be happy working with you on some of these. My current schedule is rolling along with 3 clients, but I will be closing out two contracts soon, and could start as soon as early June, if you are interested.

 

Note: I had to split my response in two parts, as there appears to be a character limit per message.

 

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The caveats you've listed [my responses are in brackets] :

 

"I will own unconditionally all drafts and final scenes outright, free and clear, once you are paid."

 

[I actually almost always sell rights this way, because my work takes a lot of time, and my payrate might be higher than some (especially compared to a Ukrainian artist, I'd imagine). Even without your Kickstarter, I'd be willing to work with you on prints and extended uses for you to recoup the cost, as I have with other independent authors. I work with independent authors and large company names alike.]

 

"Each final scene will need to be provided in the following formats, jpeg, tif, and pdf and with a preferred density of 300 dpi or with sufficient pixels (where applicable) to print a pristine image of 24 x 30 inches"

 

[not a problem]

 

"Be warned - I am picky and it often takes a couple of revisions before a scene is finalized. Furthermore, I require that you print each scene revision, number it, enter its creation date, and initial/sign it. In addition to your fee for creating the final scene, I will pay postage and $XXX total, whether there are two or ten, revisions. Again, you will be paid in full for creating the final scene, this is just an extra and it need not be printed on archival paper."

 

[Printing revisions is different than I'm used to, but I would be OK with most of this. I would prefer to collect them together and mail them right before my final fee per image is paid, because I try to minimize errands and interruptions when I'm deep into illustrating scenes. As for the revisions, I am OK with them as long as it doesn't mean starting over, however, my contract does usually discuss contingencies when revisions go over 3-6. It might be worth talking about. The concern (for all artists) is that when the time revisions take far outreaches the time expected (pay is all about time, afterall)]

 

"You will get credit for your art on my website WizardWasOdd.com or Oziian.com (Wizard Was Odd Squad) and if Kickstarter is successful, in the digital and printed books."

 

[Sounds good. I require credit for all work that I do, upon publication.]

 

"In that the second book deviates significantly from the first in that it has a dark side, I reserve the right to use more than one artist to create different characters and scenes. Dark art is a talent and not all artists are good at it."

 

[I can do dark art, and actually enjoy the darker themes. I have worked on horror and would like more dark assignments. Attached are some dark pieces, but I could go much darker than that.]

 

"In that some of the characters have been created, it will be necessary to emulate those characters in the scenes that you create. I will also consider revisions to some of the characters that have been created."

 

[Should't be a problem. I understand the continuity issues and can make sure they are recognizable. That being said, my work comes out in my style, and would be my take on it, unavoidably so.]

 

[I would like to forward my standard contract, for your perusal, if you want to see how I typically work.

 

My typical rate is $XXX to $XXX per double-spread, depending on the scope and many other stipulations. What I would like to do is write you an estimate for a couple of specific scenes that you want done first. Are we in the same ballpark with that rate?]

 

+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=PART 2 BELOW+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=

 

 

 

 

OnDrawnWings

 

+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=PART 2, PRINTS+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=

 

 

As for the prints...I think that is a cool idea to boost your Kickstarter that way. By the way, I

ran a successful Kickstarter around 2012, if you reference "Birds of Lore." Birds of Lore is quite

possibly one of my favorite samples to this day because I really got to stretch my wings (no pun

intended). I read and reread your current artist's print quote, but I am uncertain about a few things (forgive me if this should be obvious).

 

He said:

 

"My proposal on prints with my signature on paper A3 + Matte Canvas (12.9 "x 19") using a border is

$XXX for 100-200 prints and $XXX for each print after the 200. Giclee or digital fine art printing

with Claria Photographic 6 color ink on A-3 Epson Matte Heavyweight Premium Presentation Paper (167

g/m2) or Lomond Matt paper, A-3, 230 g/m2 . The artist will oversee the production and printing,

sign, and number each print. "

 

Now, I think he is saying that he will furnish you with up to 200 prints for $XXX each, and then $XXX per print after 200. Is that correct?

 

I can follow that exactly, but my print connection (one that I trust and use often) is limited to 12 x 18, with the following specs: Digitally printed, archival 6-color on 12x18-inch, thick cover-weight paper, matte finish. The printable area is 11.75 x 17.75, so there will be a slight white border around the print. I sometimes work with the white to incorporate it into a border, etc. or fade it, or I can also trim it off.

 

I think the quality of these prints are nice and color reproduction is worthwhile. These are from a

local print shop. I often don't like the rough papers used in Giclee because the tooth of the paper

messes with my art, and they are needlessly costly in the US (I assume but wonder if he was getting them from the Ukraine?).

 

Anyways, I can match the price if I have things correct, but I would want shipping

to be covered when I ship them to you, is the only difference. *Also, I take great pride in signing and numbering my work, so I would want to do that in gold or silver ink, and possibly would stamp the back. I get fancy!

 

+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=+=

 

Thanks for your interest!

Please let me know either way,

Kind regards,

Ryan Durney

 

 

Below is my standard bio repeated:

 

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I am an award-winning, full-time, freelance illustrator focusing on children's books, textbook illustration, and educational readers as well as prehistoric subjects, for a range of young audiences. I have had paid projects for almost two decades and also been paid to write and design for picture books, fantasy and educational books.

 

I use inks, paints and digital techniques to create a unique look. My favorite review described my work as "pearlescent." My images are always straddling the fence between something classic and something that feels altogether new. My most recent series, Birds of Lore mixes medieval and Victorian influences with modern illustrative thinking. http://www.amazon.com/Birds-Lore-Book-Silver-Paperback/dp/098409007X/ref=sr_1_4?s=books&ie=UTF8&qid=1385058411&sr=1-4&keywords=Birds+of+Lore+Book

 

I've  won several awards for my work, including many international competitions such as Best of Fantasy, and Society of Illustrators West #45, as well as a Mom's Choice Award in 2012 and 2011. All-in-all, though, I count being voted in by the kids for a Children's Choice Award as my all-time favorite recognition.

 

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Peeky

 

Greetings Ryan, See my answers next to your question. I missed this email until now; pardon the delay.

 

OnDrawnWings 

 

Hi Peeky,

Below is a message from OnDrawnWings for Project ID: 1359120, "Graphic Art-Fantasy Scenes 4 trilogy".

 

 

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As for the prints...I think that is a cool idea to boost your Kickstarter that way. By the way, I

ran a successful Kickstarter around 2012, if you reference "Birds of Lore." Birds of Lore is quite

possibly one of my favorite samples to this day because I really got to stretch my wings (no pun

intended). I read and reread your current artist's print quote, but I am uncertain about a few things (forgive me if this should be obvious).

 

He said:

 

"My proposal on prints with my signature on paper A3 + Matte Canvas (12.9 "x 19") using a border is

$XXX for 100-200 prints and $XXX for each print after the 200. Giclee or digital fine art printing

with Claria Photographic 6 color ink on A-3 Epson Matte Heavyweight Premium Presentation Paper (167

g/m2) or Lomond Matt paper, A-3, 230 g/m2 . The artist will oversee the production and printing,

sign, and number each print. "

 

Now, I think he is saying that he will furnish you with up to 200 prints for $XXX each, and then $XXX per print after 200. Is that correct?  Yes per print

 

I can follow that exactly, but my print connection (one that I trust and use often) is limited to 12 x 18, with the following specs: Digitally printed, archival 6-color on 12x18-inch, thick cover-weight paper, matte finish. The printable area is 11.75 x 17.75, so there will be a slight white border around the print. I sometimes work with the white to incorporate it into a border, etc. or fade it, or I can also trim it off. OK, I can live with the size difference.

 

I think the quality of these prints are nice and color reproduction is worthwhile. These are from a

local print shop. I often don't like the rough papers used in Giclee because the tooth of the paper

messes with my art, and they are needlessly costly in the US (I assume but wonder if he was getting them from the Ukraine?).   I am marketing these in Kickstarter as "archival quality paper and ink" "The art is expected to span generations"  So this part is really important. And of course I will pay for shipping.  But please look around and see what you can come up with to find a printer using archival material. It need not be canvas, but it needs to be archival. Also, there are a number of web printers and we should be able to do a lot or we will not be doing hardly any. So you will get a volume price if you have to go that way.

 

Anyways, I can match the price if I have things correct, but I would want shipping

to be covered when I ship them to you, is the only difference. *Also, I take great pride in signing and numbering my work, so I would want to do that in gold or silver ink, and possibly would stamp the back. I get fancy! Great!

 

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May, 30 Peeky

 

See attached files(s)

 

Greetings Ryan,

 

You certainly do have a unique and fun style. Much of what I have seen, I enjoyed very much.  What I like best and perhaps it is because that style I have thus far, is your ability to create very real life characters with personality and detail without any hint of them appearing cartoonish.

 

As mentioned this art is for my books,but also is to be used as limited edition signed prints to raise money in Kickstarter.  Are you able to meet the various specifications in my job offer?  With your experience, I would assume so.

 

To proceed, I need to know your prices for printing the art as archival limited edition prints. I also would to see how we work together with you creating a sample character and scene, Please give me a price for a detailed sketch for each one - you can pick the character and scene from the word files in the job offering.

 

Assuming thereafter, we could work together on the remainder of the project and the third book, what will you be expecting for a character fee and scene (full color as detailed in the specs).

 

Thank you for reaching out. Thank you for sharing! I know plenty of people who will enjoy the fruit of your talents, adults and children! I look forward to your reply, Happy Memorial Day!

 

 

 

 

My business - The Vanguard Management Group, Inc. suddenly took off several months ago. I am not sure what changed, but we became inundated with requests for proposals and gained many new clients. As president, my responsibilities are meeting with prospective clients and then coordinating the transfer of their information and set up from their current company to ours.  This pretty much ate up most of my time.

I still worked on developing new scenes, modifying cover art to meet the needs of the printer, converting the Kickstarter presentation - now it will be available to both English and Spanish readers, and the list goes on. I did not blog on any of it because I did it when I found the time and there was no consistency that folks have the right to expect from a blog.

I will get back on it once I start up Kickstarter.

Peeky

 

I understand. When you have clients that want their work tomorrow - I always step back and wait. I do not demand. When with a moments notice you have to leave for a week, I don't complain - I wait.

 

Apparently business is off for you right now. I am sure it will pick up again.  When it does, I am sure to be waiting again. And I will.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

I do not understand the meaning of your reasoning.

 

1) You told that you will get the texture in the near future and immediately sent me. I said we are waiting for more than a week and it's weird. What is the problem?

 

2) I'm always working on several projects (with clients from different countries). When I'm very busy or should go, I always inform you when I can return to this project.

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky, did you receive the sample? If no, I can do the texture myself. We have already lost a lot of time.

 

Regards.

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

I have more time than I do money so we will have to wait. I just called them the day I sent you the email.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

For me it is important to use my time effectively. Therefore I need to know how things are going on this project. We write, call, waiting for the texture from them for a week.

 

Good. Let's wait further.

 

Thanks.

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky

 

OK I did not know from your email. I wil call them if I do not hear from them.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

I see that there is no movement on the book cover because of the texture. Almost a week has passed.

 

I think they will not send the high res texture and I can understand them. No one wants to give the high res original free, that is their business. I propose to make the texture myself, the more I can do it well  and it will look even better. It will be good for advertising in the 3D image.

 

What do you think?

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

I did not know that you had contacted them. I did not understand that from your email. I called them today. And they are sending me a sample right away. When I get it I will take a close up of it on my iPhone and send it to you immediately.

 

Sent from my iPad

 

 

Peeky

 

I'm sure that is a fine price, but lets wait and see if they send me a file or image.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Okay, but 4 days passed since I sent a request to them.

 

While we are waiting for, it would be good to move on to other things.

 

Ruslan

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

I did not received the high res sample yet.

 

If you want I can do it qualitatively that myself.

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

You can as long as you can get it to look as good as it should or better. If it is going to be costly then let me know first, please

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky, I know how to do it technically so that it will look very good, similar that, much better. Is $XXX acceptable for you? Since this will be done for advertising this is a resonable price.

 

This original texture can be used for high-quality color printing, if will need.

 

Please let me know if you agree and I will start at once.

 

Best,

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky

 

OK that size text is good. We are ready once I work out the density issue.

 

OK. What if they want to mail me an actual sample. Will and iPhone 6 close up work?

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

I got the message from Ecological Fibers, but haven't received the sample of the Marble paper yet.

 

If they sent it to you, please send me. I think no problem to send this using iPhone 6.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

Ok are they sending you the actual sample or sending it to me. I have not reached out to them because when I wrote you it was Sunday Eve here.

 

peeky

 

 

Peeky

 

Ok - I after this last email I threw up my hands and said "I need a break".

 

So now...Let's take a step back and allow me to think outloud.

 

 I am doing three sets of books. The colored ones  - these will be a paperback set and the same image will be used for the dust jacket of  the purple book.

 

Books images 1&2 Glossy Combined.jpg

 

The blue textured books in your first sample (sample.jpg) below is the second set of books which will be a hard cover- these are fine and complete except for barcode and ISBN.  This set will have no dust jacket.

 

I got confused with your washed out texture-color purple example - it did not look purple and It was so far from the sample of cover material I had been viewing I thought it was a redo of the  blue textured books. I now understand what you are explaining.

 

Here is a link to the site that is marketing the material.

 

https://www.ecofibers.com/products/rainbow-papers/rainbow-marble

 

Perhaps you can download what you need. The books with that purple color and texture can be the same size as the book the image I downloaded here and the same size as your sample 1. The final illustration has to have the clarity and detail of the paperbacks and the blue hard covers. If this link does not provide it what do you suggest we do?  this is the same site that provided material you worked with on the blue books. Also, can you enhance the gold in the purple pattern if needed to better display the logo.

 

Concerning the lettering . I am fortune NOT to be bound by the constraints of conventionality. Please double the height of that text, "Commemorative Gold Edition" and drop the image and text beneath the image an equal amount to compensate.

 

How much is it going to cost me to make that microscopic adjustment in color to the Logo to fit on the back of the book.

 

I think this gets us up and running again.

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Peeky,

 

Please see the attached book cover. I increased the "Commemorative Gold Edition" and did everything a little bit more so that it looks harmoniously. This is still without qualitative texture for the background.

 

I tried to download the Rainbow® Marble ™ 1307 Charoite texture, but it failed to do. Please contact them and ask can we get a high resolution image and let me know.


If not, I can do a similar high-quality texture myself.

 

Best regards,


Ruslan

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Thank you for the reply. I understand you and wish you success. Hope to hear from you soon.


Ruslan

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hi Peeky,

 

Waiting for your reply.

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

Yes - most likely this week end.

 

I am understanding when you have assignments and vacations. Your patience is appreciated.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky, no problem. I always inform you exactly when I can continue working.

 

I just want clarity, because have a lot of projects and should manage this and plan my time.

 

Thank you for understanding.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

Thank you for your patience. We have never had a year like this and have been in business 25 - new accounts are pouring in. This was never expected and continues to be unpredictable. It is the workhorse that provides for the Wizard Was Odd project.

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Hello Peeky,


For a long time there was no word from you. How is your health? How are you doing?


Please let me know.


Best regards,


Ruslan

 

Peeky


Greetings Ruslan,

 

I am doing fine, but work is extremely busy and consuming all of my time. I hope to have time to review your last email this weekend. Thank you for checking in.


Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

1) You're wrong about the lack of texture on the blue books. I only changed the title of the book, the texture is the same. I have attached the previous image and the last one to compare.

 

2) I increased the "Commemorative Gold Edition" a little. It is impossible to make it equal to the size of "The Wizard Was Odd". The name of the book and the trilogy are priority and we can not change the semantic structure. I made two versions, but I like more the Book Version 1 (the inscription in one line).

 

3) The Oz logo was made specially in conjunction with the lightning and the sky and it is already very large in size. Do you want to put the logo together with the lightning on the back cover?

 

4) The purple background image that you have downloaded from the site has a high graduation (light & shadow). Obviously, this is an amateur photography of the texture. I have attached the "Sample. Jpg.", Where I took the rectangles and move them to other places to see the difference. Probably, the one that at the center is closest to the real color. However, the exact color is not clear because of poor sample. I have attached the "Sample 300dpi. jpg" to see the low resolution of the texture. To make high-quality images I need to have a high resolution texture or create the texture based on the sample myself. I can do this texture well if you want and it can be used for advertising of the book.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Hello Peeky,


Hope you are not affected by the hurricane.

 

I attached the logo on a separate layer, the previous book cover and the books in the needed version.

 

I also made the changes in the book cover on a purple background. If all is well with this I'm going to do the realistic books.

 

Best regards,


Ruslan

 

 

 

OZ-2a.tif

 

Peeky

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

Please go back and look over your earlier finished midnight blue books. These have the text that they were supposed to. The images you sent to me have no texture.

 

I would like the "Commemorative Gold Edition" almost equal to or equal to the size of "The Wizard Was Odd" on the book cover.

 

I wanted the Oz logo to appear in a very large size on the back cover. I will not have the time to test the layer until next week end.  However, perhaps we could put the one I've paid for on the back cover with the lightning. You did a fine job with that logo and lighting and lighting and maybe reverse it for the  second book. Lets get it the way we want it on the back cover before we worry about using it on the front cover of the other book.

 

I am attaching the purple cover image you sent to me and the background image that  I have downloaded from the site that provides the book cover material which is the one I am counting on using. I would like to see a draft that isn't washed out or blurred - Notice the lightness of the original and the clarity of the mable pattern as well as the grain. Please provide images that are crisp and sharp like your first hardcover books.[Inline image 3][Inline image 2][Inline image 1]

 

Thanks - I look forward to seeing your next set of drafts.

 

Peeky

 

 

 

 

 

Peeky


Greetings Ruslan,

 

I will check this out this week end. We are dealing with a hurricane right now.

 

On another note, I am attaching an image of the blue book that you designed. I cannot find the image where you showed or put the second book, Trail of Tears on top. Can you send me that to me? thx

 

 

Peeky

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

Before I finalize this layout I would like to see it on the purple colored material that you selected for the cover.

 

Also, I tried playing with the logo, adding it to this image, but kept running into the problem that I was trying to avoid.  You will notice the white background on  the logo. I had asked that you remove all background in an earlier email (it was grey-I think).

 

The reason I wanted it removed was so that I could drop the logo in where I wanted without the surrounding white or grey background. I wanted to see how it might look without bothering you for another draft.

 

Can you please send me the logo image without a background.  So when I do drop it on a another background, the only thing I see is the logo. Even if the only way you can send it is at a layer.

 

In closing, before you spend any more time on this project, please replicate the text on the purple cover stock.

 

Also on the purple color stock - somewhere on the front cover please put "Commemorative Gold Edition". You can put it where you have "Commemorative Edition" if you like but I would like it bold and large - please remove the text "1900 - 2020, Celebrating 120 Years". We will move this to the back cover and that will leave more room for the text that I am asking  for here.

 

Thank you, I look forward to seeing your draft.

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

Please see the attachment.

 

I changed the color of the book cover and put the "Commemorative Edition". Such composition of the text is good, therefore I did not change it. If all is well, I will make a three-dimensional images of the books. Please let me know.

 

I will send you a monochrome image for embossing, it is necessary for the technology.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

Peeky


These images please.


Peeky

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Peeky,


Please let me know what do you want to see in addition to the text on the purple book with gold embossing.


Thanks,


Ruslan

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Hello Peeky,


Yes, I am sending the logo.


Ruslan

 

 

Peeky

 

Thank you. Now if I want to drop just the logo on a color background that will show only the logo correct?

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

On what background do you want to put the logo? It is optimized for a particular background.

 

What did you decide regarding the dust jackets?

 

I asked you about the text, but you sent the old one. Do you want to leave that?

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

We are going to use the first colored dust jackets that you did and I will change the text. You can start working on the purple book with gold embossing. I am slammed and you are welcome to layout the text different ways on the dust jacket and book cover if you like. You arranged the text before on the dust jacket, etc.

 

You indicate I use the same text - what other text might you recommend?

 

Commemorative Edition

120 year Commemorative Edition

Commemorative Gold Edition

Celebrating 120 years 1900- 2020

 

Peeky

 

 

Peeky


Can I get a full resolution image of this logo and the other one without the background. This one has a grey back ground.

 

Peeky

 

 

Peeky

 

I only have a minor problem with the first item. You need to increase it $XXX  for the new wizard image. The one you sent me today. I don't want to be billed some greater number next week.

 

I don't have a problem with the second OR third item. I have a big problem with both the second AND third item.

 

You already had the logo? I try to be fare, but I have no idea why you think you needed different dark clouds as a background?  I can't tell the difference except for lightning.

 

Starting over - new images - new bills...Why aren't you doing these drafts in layers so that you do not always need to start over?  If I like the cover the way it was, why do you need to do it again. Why not use it as a layer, overlay the logo, and send me a few different images with varied transparency.

 

Please reconsider your invoice.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

Okay, I will add +$XXX for the new Wizard image ($XXX for the faces).

 

I changed and improved the logo as we agreed ( very realistic and volumetric) and I put it on the cover. I am also attaching it separately.

 

You wanted at the beginning and we agreed that one dust jacket will have Wizard's face on the front cover, and the logo on the back cover. For the second dust jacket on the contrary: the logo on the front cover and Wizard's face on the back cover. I did the skyscapes separately for each design taking into account the characteristics of each composition. Much work has been done (different backgrounds were need  for face and logo) .  It was necessary to make different backgrounds for variety as well.

 

The more you wanted it. If you wanted to use the previous images, it was necessary to say this before. I made two new skyscapes in color for two dust jackets as we agreed and you liked them: "Great job - I like the storm and lightning ..."

 

Do you want to use the old images for two new book covers?  I think it is not logically.

 

Even if you want to use the previous images need to modify them anyway.

 

Hope for your understanding,

 

Ruslan

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Hello Peeky,

 

Returning to the original ideas to do Wizard's face on the front cover, and the logo on the back cover for the first dust jacket and for the second dust jacket on the contrary. For that I did the skyscapes, portraits and the logo.

 

I attached the dust jackets to show how I was planning to do that. Of course, need to finalize the portrait in color.

 

Do you remember, you asked to be creative, and I did it, you approved my ideas. I would like to submit the invoice for the work done and continue working on the project.

 

Thanks,


Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

Peeky

 

I dont have time to look at these now. Submit your invoices - whatever...

 

After I pay these do not do another project or change order moving forward until you quote me a price and get an approval.

 

Also on the last facial - it is not approved - I am passing it around for opinions.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I sent the invoice. If you will want to change anything in the last face I will do it. No problem.

 

Okay. Let's agree all the next steps.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky

 

See below

 

---------- Forwarded message ----------

From: Peeky >

Date: Wed, Aug 31, 2016 at 3:08 PM

Subject: New Book Cover : [GURUMSG-W34Z9G0YQDC] (Do Not Modify) From: Ruslan Vigovsky

To: "Guru.com" >

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

You did a better job on the other than I would have - please place this on the books.

 

The books and dust jacket can utilize the text as follows wherever you believe it looks best.:

 

The Wizard Was Odd Trilogy and Celebrating 120 years - You did a great job with that on the blue books.

 

Title

Author

Book One?

Book Two?

Gold Commemorative Edition ( I think this should be prominent)

 

As far as Art goes, the dust jacket will be four color and can therefore utilize my logo in full color with the surrounding gold bead skulls. I was thinking that a large logo could be center image for the front cover. If you have an idea,  I am open to hearing it and if we use it, the Logo could be used on the back cover along with the above text.

 

On the books themselves, since it is gold foil, I am thinking that detailed art will not show well. So, my idea is a facial of the Wizard looking out and at the reader. If we do this, it could be embellished and used on the dust Jacket with more color and detail. We went through this before when you created Wizard faces the first time. I was looking for one with menacing, mad, devious, and cruel features.  We never got there and I settled for what you did and moved on.  For the cover, I still want this. I will include some of the images as examples that I included before. If we can't get it to my satisfaction this time, I will give the face only to someone else. You will still create the books and layout of the books.  I specified that I might use different artists on this project as one of my conditions in our initial agreement to which you agreed. I wanted to be upfront about this - so it is not personal. If you can't create that kind of image then know that the person who does create it will not be able to replicate the beauty in your art.

 

Please review the attached pictures.

 

I also

 

Below

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

I see you give up the idea to show the insidious and evil Wizard's face. I told you earlier that the sinister face will scare the viewer. I will do the inspired face like in video you attached.  It will be fundamentally a new face. Tomorrow I'll send a sketch. I also need to know exactly what the text will be for each book cover to make the design.

 

I have only this:

 

Title

Author

Book One?

Book Two?

Gold Commemorative Edition (I think this should be prominent)

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

I have not given up on that idea which is why I said you could use anyone of those, but it has to be striking...and it cannot be a happy face

 

The books Text - Also I am open to suggestions on words and phrases - you arrange text as needed

 

The title and Author should be on each book.

 

Here are other suggestions

 

Book One of the The Wizard Was Odd Trilogy

 

Gold Commemorative Edition - Maybe across the top front cover image

 

Celebrating 120 Years - Maybe the last text beneath the front cover image

 

On the Second Book

 

The title and Author should be on each book.

 

Here are other suggestions

 

Book Two of the The Wizard Was Odd Trilogy

 

Gold Commemorative Edition - Maybe across the top front cover image

 

Celebrating 120 Years - Maybe the last text beneath the front cover image

 

Great job - I like the storm and lightning...

 

However,

 

Give this idea some thought...I think your immediate reaction will be "No". So think about how to do it.

 

What do you think about superimposting the OZ logo over the attached Cover? Leave the lightning  and back ground that you just createduse only the face of the Wizard part and tornado part. Keep he storm and lightning that you created for this cover?  I am thinking that with the right degree of transparency of the Wizard and Tornado - that it could be award winning combination.

 

You can likely get by with just the Wizard Face Blowing and the tail of the tornado below.

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I made a new captivating Wizard's portrait. Focused, gloomy and a little angry. I depicted such a beard to keep the image original. It is attached.

 

Regarding the dust jackets: this a new concept.  It is necessary to make new sketches.

 

I would like to be paid for the work done and then work on the new compositions.

 

In this new concept I will use basic part of the made sky.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Peeky,

 

I attached the sky landscapes to the super covers with the modified and improved logo. You asked to increase the logo and I did it and I think that it is not necessary to increase it more.

 

Cover-1 shows an incipient tornado. Such lightning glow effect works well with the logo.

 

I am waiting for your answer regarding Wizard's face to incorporate it in the Cover-2. Four different faces were made as you know.

 

Waiting for your reply and the texts.

 

Best regards,


Ruslan

 

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Peeky,

 

Yes, I really did a big job with the face. The last version with the new changes is attached. Also I attached all the versions of Wizard's face. They all have the right to life.

 

As usual you come up with new ideas and want new versions. This differs from the previous ones.
In addition, I have attached the samples you sent, they all have different expressions and emotions.
Anyway, I have to look for integral images.

 

Hope you will like the new version as well.

 

Thanks,


Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Hello Peeky,


I'm back and can continue to work on the project.


What about the latest version of Wizard which I sent September 12?


Just in case, I attached it and the portrait of September 10.


Best regards,


Ruslan

 

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I'll have a trip from tomorrow to make oil paintings (landscapes), so I can not work this week on the covers. I'll be back the 19th-20th of September and will continue actively work on your project.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

OK i appreciate it. I need to find another to create the face of the Wizard.  We tried awhile ago and again the other day. I do not want to delay the project over this as it is critical.  Once I have that image you can finish up the book covers and move to the next scene. In the mean time I can figure out the location of the text but you did better than I could have before. Have a safe trip...If you are going to be longer than that please let me know as soon as you know.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I sent you a new version of Wizard September 10. Please let me know did you received it?

 

I attached a new additional version. There is no problem to create another face. I'll come back and do it fast for 2-3 hours if need. There is a difference in the examples you sent and in the image of Wizard, because he has a beard. It changes the nature of some expressions (not visible chin, etc.)

 

Hope for understanding.

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky


I did not get the one from Sept 10 - I will check this one out later as I have to go to work.


Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Hello Peeky,

 

Yes, the pencil drawing more dynamic than the airbrush. It is a feature of this technique and so it always will be.

 

I made another version of the Wizard's face and opened his mouth a little so that he looks terrifying. Teeth are made specially rare, it looks more threatening than a Hollywood smile.

 

Please see the attached book covers with the changes.

 

Also I am waiting for the texts to the covers.

 

Best regards,


Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

Peeky

 

Sorry for the delay...it looks fine. I will not be able to say for sure until I get the whole picture. If you want to save the layers than you can go back to an earlier image without maybe having to redo your work as much. Also, you spoke about adding lightning?  I guess that will come after the main art.

 

The pencil sky looks a lot more dramatic than the color sky. So I like the way this looks better, but I looked at the other image first.

 

The logo will need to be much larger and centered.

 

The Wizard looks angry not terrifying (to me). The eyes look like they might work. So please go back to the sample images I provided. He can have a devious wicked smile - cold cunning cruel.

 

Also I would like a facial with the face centered not askew. Good Luck

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Hello Peeky,


I made a sketch to the terrifying Wizard. I think it is better not to show he is smiling, because he will not so evil.


Also see the attached sketches of the front covers.


The sky landscapes will be different. The sky, clouds will be quite realistic. Also, in the composition 2, I showed a hint of a tornado so that to combine Wizard with the sky. Hope you will like everything.


Please send the texts.


Best regards,


Ruslan

 

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Hi Peeky,


I made the dramatic sky image for the cover. It is attached. I will add lightning for another cover.


Need the text for the composition.


Thanks,


Ruslan

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

Okay, I will work on that and send a pencil sketch.

 

But the images which you sent as examples for Wizard image are cunning and despicable, but are not terrifying and demonic. This is a demonic smile. Need a different facial expression for a terrible face. If you want the demonic smile I can do that.

 

Are the book titles the same? Please let me know what name is going on the front cover with the logo and what title is on the front cover with Wizard's face.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

+I did not find any attachment...here is the deal...I will appreciate every draft that you send me. I am looking for a face that stands out - that makes people stop a few seconds longer to take note. Call it what you like but the faces are anything but normal. I understand some are super-exaggerated, but the Wiz you create is going into a fantasy...so use any face that looks terrifying, insane, dispicable, demonic, terrible - you decide. However, it needs to be a showstopper for the cover of a book.

 

You have created showstopper art scenes already - so I know you can do it.  Create it even if you don't like it. I will share and get others thoughts on your creations.  All I can say is that others liked the images I sent you with respect to being unique, attention-getters, and curious enough to ask a question as to their origin.

 

Peeky

 

 

Peeky


Greetings Ruslan, I am attaching a file that is easier to read as this is coming out weirdly.

 

Thanks again for the brain power. I liked the Charoite 1307 because it is novel.

 

See my comments below:

 

Design_of_Last_Book.docx

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I like most of all Charoite 1307 for the book.

 

It will look with gold letters very well and will have something in common with the dust jacket of the first set. It is important to have dark background. Gold letters on that light green background will not work. Need the contrast.

 

I do not really like the idea of ??the logo with the surrounding gold bead skulls. Skull is a very specific topic, and no everyone loves this. This could badly affect the sale.

 

I suggest to depict the realistic full-color logo like casted of gold for the front cover of the dust jacket. For the background, it would be good to create the dramatic sky with storm clouds and lightning and fill the entire background of the cover (including the back cover). It will look like a very impressively. What do you think?

 

Also, I would make a golden logo on one of the books as a stamp.

 

Regarding the menacing Wizard for the book it is not a good idea. I think It will scare away buyers. Maybe it would be better to make one of the subjects as a stamp.

 

But if you insist, I can do the evil Wizard. Then it would be logical to do so:

 

Book 1. The logo as a stamp for the book and the realistic logo and background for the dust jacket.

Book 2. Wizard as a stamp for the book and the realistic Wizard's face for the dust jacket.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

Let me ponder this.  I appreciate your thoughts and energy.  We are ending a hurricane here so it may be a couple of days.

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Hello Peeky,


Glad you liked them.


I improved something in addition in this illustration.Please take the attached version.


I would like $XXX for the last changes.


Thanks,


Ruslan

 

 

Peeky

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

You should enjoy this project, at least the creative part.  This link will take you to some book cover sample material.  The colors I tend to like are: https://www.ecofibers.com/products/rainbow-papers/rainbow-marble

 

Ebony, Mica, and Lazuli.  Whatever the cover material is, both books will have the same.

 

However, I like the green one because it has swirls of gold which will go well with the gold foil stamp. So I want you to to come up with something striking. We can have foil other than if your ideas justify it. You can google foil to see colors.  So think about the art, text, foil, and pick some covers to work with. I understand that I will be paying extra for this and will try to work with your preliminaries.

 

However, I also want a dust jacket.

 

The books and dust jacket can utilize the text as follows wherever you believe it looks best.:

 

The Wizard Was Odd Trilogy and Celebrating 120 years - You did a great job with that on the blue books.

 

Title

Author

Book One?

Book Two?

Gold Commemorative Edition

 

As far as Art goes, the dust jacket will be four color and can therefore utilize my logo in full color with the surrounding gold bead skulls. I was thinking that a large logo could be center image for the front cover. If you have an idea,  I am open to hearing it and if we use it, the Logo could be used on the back cover along with the above text.

 

On the books themselves, since it is gold foil, I am thinking that detailed art will not show well. So, my idea is a facial of the Wizard looking out and at the reader. If we do this, it could be embellished and used on the dust Jacket with more color and detail. We went through this before when you created Wizard faces the first time. I was looking for one with menacing, mad, devious, and cruel features.  We never got there and I settled for what you did and moved on.  For the cover, I still want this. I will include some of the images as examples that I included before. If we can't get it to my satisfaction this time, I will give the face only to someone else. You will still create the books and layout of the books.  I specified that I might use different artists on this project as one of my conditions in our initial agreement to which you agreed. I wanted to be upfront about this - so it is not personal. If you can't create that kind of image then know that the person who does create it will not be able to replicate the beauty in your art.

 

Please review the attached pictures.

 

I also

 

Below

 

Peeky

 

  

 

 

 

  

 

  

 

Peeky

 

Thank you! No problem.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

No problem, I can do that. Tomorrow I will write you more in detail.

 

I sent the invoice.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Hello Peeky,


I adapted the illustrations so that they look good without text.


I am sending three illustrations in the separate messages.


Also I made the second book blue .


Best regards,


Ruslan

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


02 illustration

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


03 illustration

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Books

 

 

Peeky

 

Thank you!

 

Great Job!

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Hello Peeky,

 

Okay, I will modify the second set of books.

 

Regarding the scenes without text. Need to adapt some of them, because the compositions were made, taking into account the presence of the text. If to remove the text a void will be.


I'll work on it and send tomorrow.

 

Please send the book info.

 

Thanks,


Ruslan

 

 

Peeky

 

The comment was intended as a complement - sorry I failed to communicate that better.

 

Regarding your proposal for the drafts and sketches... I will consider your offer.

 

In the meantime, I would like you do modify the second set of books so that both books are blue.

 

I also would like you to design another book cover with a different pattern, modified text, and a dust jacket which will be the same art that you did on the first set of books.  The two end pages (google if u need to) in the the front of the book will have a color map of Western Oz.

 

Also...perhaps you were right (that hurts me to say)...can you send me colored scenes without text - there are just the first two...

 

Let me know when you are ready for the book info.

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Hello Peeky,


I completed the color illustration. Two versions are attached. Hope you will like it.


Tomorrow I will answer regarding the sketches and drawings.


Thanks,


Ruslan

 

 

 

Peeky

 

Both are excellent. I will figure it out which one to use.  Unless you have some other adjustments, you can bill me.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

Glad you liked the color illustration. I sent an invoice.

 

Thank you for the five stars feedback.

 

I forgot to mention that I have blocked one of your earlier feedbacks: "He cares and tries hard."

 

In general, your project is interesting and it is "easy" for me to work on this, in spite of some our debates. I have a much more complicated  "hard" projects.

 

I like you project.

 

Regarding prices for the originals drawings with my signature.

 

I'd like $XXX for a pencil sketch (A-4) (I will choose the best of them) and $XXX for the pencil drawing on the A-3.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky

 

The image may look better without text. However, if it does not communicate the point of the story, then the text is needed. I will not make the determination. I will share the works. Also please make a version without the crows text leaving only Dorothy's text so i have a comparison.

 

On these sketches - I have no idea  how many i will want that depends if there is any demand when i do kickstarter. If i do not raise the minimum, then i will not need any.  Now I am looking for an individual price (I thought you quoted me early on, but have not had a chance to look)

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

Do you mean those sketches for the characters (A4), or also the large drawings (A-3 +) for illustrations made on paper?

 

Before moving on to the drafts, I would like to finish with the texts on the site. I spent a lot of time on editing and would like you to remove the excess text. There's a lot of garbage. I do not think it will interest someone. It would be good if I will place the texts and pictures myself.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

Yes those drawings. You might be able to eliminate the crows' text. You can send me a couple of different versions if you have multiple ideas. Yes we can finish this up as I have some other books I need designed

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hi Peeky,

 

Please specify, do you want to get all the sketches (A-4) and the drawings (A-3+) or only drawings of the illustrations?

 

I am working on the color image. Really, it will look better without the text. Hope it will be completed today in the evening.

 

Do you plan to do the following illustration for this book in the near future?

 

Also, you are going to send me the third set of the books.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky


Greetings Ruslan,

 

When we first started working together we discussed you saving drafts in case they became desireable.

 

I was thinking of offering them on Kickstarter. I have no idea if anyone will want them, but I have to come up with a contribution that they will pay for them.


What are you wanting to sign and mail these if we have any takers. It might be better to go as low as you can to cover postage and some profit because the lower they are, may increase their demand. Also you can charge a bit more for a draft scene than you can for a character. I still have the notes we made on printing off the final scenes which is where I hope we make out profitably.


Peeky

 

 

Rusland does not like my suggestion...Provides another arrangement of the text on the Book Cover

Ruslan Vigovsky


Peeky,


Okay. Glad you liked the illustration.


Basically I do everything in the black and white picture and then convert it to sepia. In fact, sepia is a bonus. If you do not want to have a sepia version, then I will not do so in the future. Then I will send an invoice and will work on color. It will take a few days.


Thanks,


Ruslan


Peeky


if it is not extra then keep sending. thx


Peeky

 

 

Peeky

 

I am on vacation and should have time to answer this in the next week. I have to ponder it

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

Okay. Have a nice vacation!

 

If you will require some new changes, I can do this when you get back from vacation.

 

I will place the texts in the color image because the color density  will be higher on the sky and it will look differently in the black & white and sepia. After that I will place that into b&w and sepia versions.

 

I would like to submit an invoice for the black & white and sepia illustrations  ($XXX as we agreed ) which I did on the basis of the approved sketch. It would be nice if you pay it in the coming days.

   

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

Dont spend any time on this. I am trying to think how we might be able to make money with it through kickstarter.  If we can find interest it will need to be printed off. People will  care as much about the text as they will the images as it is supposed to be a true journey of our creative processes. So if you cut it up too much and it looks cut up and worked over, it will not have the same interest.  I understand about the images - totally because at the time I only cared to give people a close idea of the concept.

 

This looks really good, Ruslan. Moving forward - no more sepia - I can't use them anywhere - bw and color. Very nice - please give his some pizaszz with color like the kiss of the witch - great job!

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Peeky,

 

I made the pencil drawing and sepia version.

 

Regarding the site.


I would like to divide what need to do now and what remains to be done.


1. I see that need to edit, correct, resize (in scale) those images that have already been placed.


2. How much do you pay usually to the person who places the texts and pictures there?

 

Thanks,


Ruslan

 

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

I sent a bill for the aditional work on the sketches and corrections on the wizardwasodd.com site.

 

The revised text messages are in the attached Word file.

 

I removed all unnecessary and corrected some grammatical errors on this page:

 

http://wizardwasodd.com.hostbaby.com/scene_and_character_artist

 

Tomorrow I will send this corrected page:

 

http://wizardwasodd.com.hostbaby.com/a_brick_at_a_time...

 

I also see a lot of problems with the images placed on the site ... Some images are distorted, changed in color, are not displayed correctly, etc.

 

I have a suggestion. You can transfer the management of this site to me for publication and placing pictures. My son creates websites and he can help in this. We could do everything correctly and consider with you all that is located there. We would do it for a reasonable fee. Anyway it is necessary to work with the images there.

 

I am working on the illustration.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

text_for_site.docx

 

Peeky


How much to do that?


Peeky

 

 

Finalizing the "Z" in Wizard...

Peeky

 

OK but make it interesting, clever, and bright -

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

I am working on the detailed drawing.

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

I know...

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

I am also working on texts of my messages for the site.  I would submit an invoice for the additional work on the sketch ($XXX) and the editing of the texts ($XXX). I will send the corrected text messages tonight or tomorrow. In the meantime, you can send me the third set of the book covers.

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

The $XXX is because of my using your emails correct? If so yes you may send the invoice as requested

 

Peeky  

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

I meant that those emails will be used, which I will revise and it will be fixed on the site. I said that need to remove a lot and leave the most important things. Also, in the future, if you will want to publish my posts, it should be agreed with me.

 

In fact, $XXX for the correction and publication.

 

Do you agree?

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

I'm yes wasn't that what I offered in my email?

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

You did not send anything, but I attached that version, on which I insisted.

 

If everything is okay, I will start on the detailed drawing.

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky


I sent it off last night to a few people to review and none got back with me. Go ahead and finish it. Can you make their clothes stand out amongst their feathers. Maybe give the mail a vest


Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Okay, will start on the drawing. If to give the male a vest, maybe to add a skirt to the female?
I would like $XXX for additional work on the sketches.

 

Thanks.


Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

Let me think about it

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Peeky,


It is not just a skirt, as though a hint. Please see the attachment.


Ruslan

 

 

 

Peeky


Lets move onto another image if you do not want to give me the location options I requested earlier. If we ever get it finished we will settle up at that time. I will send you the information for you to design the final book cover set tomorrow...I will try.


Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

Regarding locations the text...

 

It is not determined by my desire, "want" - "not want" It is determined will the text work or not.

 

I changed it as you want, but I am against this arrangement of the text, it will not work ...

 

I made two versions, the second with illuminated text, so that it somehow works, but it is to the detriment of the composition. It is attached.

 

I would like to finish this illustration (detailed drawing, sepia and color) because spent a lot of time for discussion, clarification and creating of the sketches

 

and I am in this topic.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

Peeky


I cant recall if I sent this - I am sending them off for comparison. you were correct about both text blocks not working in the center over Dorothy


Peeky

 

 

Nice Sepia Cover Image...

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

I have already said that such location of the text is the best option for the location of the text. In this case, I am categorical.

 

I have improved something else so that it looks better.

 

It is attached.

 

I will send the edited my published messages later.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

Peeky


First I apologize! I will pay you $XXX, not for your words as I was very careful about never discussing prices or anything detrimental, I am paying you because I believe an apology should carry a prices. I will quit using your emails going forward but will paraphrase what I want to convey.

 

On another note, the dates are wrong. I got behind and have done very little since we swithched from "book cover" to "graphic art". I need to blog twice a week until I do Kickstarter which i hope to start in a month. If I started at where we were, I would have been with nothing to blog. However the timeline is correct,

 

Again I apologize.


Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

I can agree to $XXX, but need to correct and delete some posts, especially those that make no sense for the end result. I can choose the most important and send you later how I see it should be.

 

I would also like you agree with me all that will be published in the future.

 

Waiting for your reply regarding the last changes in the sketch and am ready to start on the detailed illustration.

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

I am pleased with everything but the text if it is not too difficult please relocate the text using the two options I offered. We will choose one of the two options or the version as it stands. It was in the same email as the eye - the eye look sgreat.  I know you are into balance and such, but I am sharing these images and if this is the feedback I am getting then they care more about form also, than substance. The comments are from those who might buy one.

 

Your offer sounds fine to me - what made you change your mind about allowing me to publish future ones?

 

Your willingness to open up on this creates an opportunity for another idea I am working on which is offering limited edition printed manuscripts of our developmental character and scene interactions. This is something I would offer on Kickstarter, like me offering your scenes.  Therefore, keep this in mind before you come up with an email delete list.

 

Recall I never gave out your fees.  Also think of reality shows...at least in America...people like real.  The fact that you and I have discussions and occasional words is what is interesting - not me oking your art. While we discussed (argued) I who know nothing of art learned from you. This is how we have come to know each other and are able to read each other. Our communications makes neither of us look bad, but human.  The reality part also gives a potential client seriously considering commissioning you for similar services, a reality check.  Think about this idea, your costs,  and how we might present, market,package it - booklet or whatever as I am not going to print another book and I am not sure it would be worth as much in digital form.

 

Also when this Kickstarter succeeds and it will I still have one more book to do or it will not be a trilogy and that will be a Kickstarter project also.

 

Bill me the $XXX so I can get over the pain.

 

Peeky

 

 

Details of Next Scene and Character Creation

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I have attached another version. I made the changes in Toto and William, The texts can not be moved.

 

The eye will be more apparent in the detailed drawing in addition.

 

You did not answer regarding publication of the my posts. I suggested two options to solve this problem.

 

I am waiting for your reply.

 

Thanks.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

Peeky


I am thinking about your suggestions. I will respond after I think it through.


Peeky

 

 

Peeky

 

Location of Wording.  Here are the choices and you pick the one that comes closest to restoring your peace of mind.

 

The wording of the crows

 

Above Dorothy's Words, leave Dorothy's Words as they are.

 

Relocate crow words above Dorothy's words; relocate Dorothy's words centered beneath the feet of Dorothy and Crow Lady.

___________________________________________________ 

Cow Comment

 

The issue that I am having however is that it appears the basket is hanging tucked under the udder, but the rope to the basket appears to be tied just behind the cows shoulders. I would either remove the one teet that looks like it's hanging over Toto, or adjust where the line for the strap appears to be.

 

Peeky says remove the tit blocking Toto. 

_______________________________ 

Eye Comment

 

It will need to be more apparent.

 

Good Luck Ruslan.  I have worked out the details of the final set of books and will provide them this upcoming week.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I visited your websites:

 

http://wizardwasodd.com.hostbaby.com

 

http://www.wizardwasodd.com

 

and saw that you are continuing to publish our correspondence. You know that I am against publishing without the agreement with me. I said that you can publish the intermediate images, but not all.

 

I do not want my private correspondence was published. It is my right. Only I can determine what can be published and what is not. You do it without my permission. Do you understand that it is confidential information? Before starting work on the project, we agreed that I will create art for you, but we did not agree about the publication of my texts. I am not only the author of the images, but also the author of the texts.

 

I see two variants to solve this problem:

 

1) you will delete all my texts

or

2) let's solve this problem financially. Each text of my message - $XXX.

 

In addition you have to agree with me what are you going to publish.

 

There is information that I do not want to publish at all, a lot of rubbish and meaningless messages.

 

Many messages just need to remove.

 

The image "The wizard was odd" for the site is distorted, it needs to be fixed.

 

I can send a correct image.

 

I also noticed that there is a discrepancy of the dates.

 

Additionally, you publish the posts and sign them by your name,  but they contain my texts. I have attached an example of such a message. Such messages can not be published.

 

Thanks.

 

Ruslan

 

P, S. I will think of the comments you have sent.

 

In general, the number of comments can be infinite...

 

Wrong_text_1_june_2015.pdf

 

 

Peeky


Greetings Ruslan,

 

If all goes well, people will take interest in your prints. Below please find an article. I know you use a printer but do you do an artist proof after so many prints?

 

Here is the article on limited prints. They speak of plates, carvings, etc. Does any of this apply to us?

 

Other than an extensive run of images or running out of ink, what would affect our printing.

 

from my I-Phone


Peeky

 

 

Different Opinions...

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I see you have increased the cow and Toto. I moved them just a little bit differently, otherwise Dorothy will point on the William's back.

 

As for Toto hanging from the nipple. The calf is not hanging, and standing on the ground and sucks milk. Toto hangs and stretches it. It will look unaesthetic and will hurt a cow. In addition, you want to show the tail as I did before. How Toto is hanging now it is the best way.

 

I moved the text of the crow, but Dorothy's text can not be so placed.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

Peeky


This is good. I see you rearranged the text - I am getting opinions on that. Also in the end, the eye will have to stand out...I will get back to you by Friday. Thanks for your patience.


Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

let's finish this sketch and an illustration.

 

You said that the sketch 8 is close. Then why did you give the comments to sketch 7? There the crows are already closer and we see more of Dorothy's face. Dorothy is already between Toto and the crows.

 

It is attached again.

 

It is impossible to make Toto bigger and farther back in this composition. This will lead to a breach of the proportions of all the characters and the composition structure.

 

Dorothy's text can not be shown at the bottom, it's bad for the composition, and will be difficult to read

on the road background. Usually the text is placed at the top, closer to the head, where the words come out. In the sketch 8 both groups of text are placed good.

 

I have attached a drawing that shows Toto hanging from the cow's nipple. The udder will be stretched from the weight of Toto. You see if to do as you want then Toto will be on the ground. It is very bad.

 

What was possible to change I did. The other things mentioned above are absurd and meaningless.

 

You often want to break my compositions. I create them easily, much more difficult explain you the laws of their formation.

 

Hope for your understanding.

 

I can change the Dorothy's arms of from what you suggested, it makes sense. If you agree, I will send the sketch with changed Dorothy's arms tomorrow. At this stage, I will not take additional fee (last sketches: 7, 8, 8+ dorothy's arms)

 

Thanks.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

Peeky

 

Dear Ruslan,

 

I think we can wrap it up.  I have given your comments serious consideration and have made changes as follows on the attached jpg.  I understand your concerns - distortions due to proximity, but then we lived with that distortion in the manticore scene where the metal man was smaller than should have been.

 

So attached is what I want.  I suggest you redo Toto because that is the only part that remains an issue. Have you spent any time under a cow?  I don't think so. If you think a 20lb dog is going to do that to a cow's nipple...it will not. Calves pull a lot harder than what toto weighs. Also, he is supported by a sling if that makes you feel better.

 

Finally - he is not to look like a dog - a dog will startle no one..  He is to look like an unrecognizable black thing with a wide open eye.  If possible, you can show a faint outline of his legs tucked aga his body, and I like his tail hanging as you had done in one scene.  Thx for your patience. If it comes out poorly or unbalanced, that is my problem and I will pay for my mistake.

 

I have rearranbed the text.  Also - as we face Dorothy, I want her left arm extended toward William.

 

Peeky

 

 

 

 

Peeky


Thank you for taking the time to look it up.


Peeky


Peeky


OK - I stand corrected and fall on the sword! Back to the drawing. This sketch is not taking into account my last sketch. I am including it and another that I marked up.


Peeky

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky, you have sent the previous comments again..

 

I have attached the sketch 7, sketch 8, and  coments.

 

I moved more the crows to the foreground in the sketch 8.

 

Thanks.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

Peeky


Now we are getting somewhere - sketch 8 is close. Yes I did keep sending the same comments - this was what I was aiming for from the start Ijust couldnt communicate it.


Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Why did you send the comments when you've got the sketch made according to these comments?

 

The sketch 8 is close, but it is the furthest from the initial idea "Toto's eye is very visible" (from your comments of 25 July).

 

It is also further away from the original idea to do all the illustrations in a vertical format with certain white field as we agreed earlier and differs from the general style of the book.

 

I have attached the illustration in such format with the fields, on which we agreed before (on the left) and the current sketch in narrower format (on the right) for compare. With such narrow format Toto's eye will not work, because it will be very small in this book size.

 

Thanks.

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky


Me sending you the manticore scene was purely an accident. I am attaching what I meant to send you. For some reason this project has been confusing. The eye was never the focal point. The reaction of the crows to toto opening his eye was the point. I have mentioned and sent text. Toto is supposed to be hanging from the cows nipple so do we need the whole cow? I don't know. I never stressed the scene to be vertical (that I know of). I had always envisioned it landscape.

 

Look at the image I meant to send you. If you want to try it fine, if not lets scrap this project and move on to another. It is taking both of us too much time. If we scrap it I will pay you more if you feel you are entitled to it.


Peeky

 

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,     

 

I've been looking for what you have asked for and found finally. I wrote to you Mar 17, 2015:

 

"...You can have some new ideas and desires and

 

I create these different compositions, color versions, and so on. I can not immediately imagine what you want and what you like more. I create these works in my individual style considering changing of your desires. But I have to spend much time creating new versions for you. Each version has the right to life and some of them I like more than the ones you like...

 

So my proposal: in the future I'll do some work: sketch, drawing, color image, this will include possible other two new versions according your new ideas at fixed price based on our previous agreements, but further changes (fourth, fifth, sixth and so on) will be charged separately. "

 

The problem is not you are not able to express in words what you hope to see on canvas. Sometimes you change your vision. For example, earlier you asked to make Toto's eye is very visible, and now the focus will be the crows... Therefore I depicted Toto and William closer so that the eye works.

 

Also, I understand, you're not an artist, this is not your profile, and you do not think by spatial relationships on canvas flatness.

 

Basically, everything is going normally.

 

Please see the new sketch. Since you want to move Toto, we will see more of the cow. All the same, I tried to make so that the Toto's eye will be visible. Hope you will like it.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky, Hello Bob, Thank you for the feedback. Just finished the color big cover. It is attached. You wanted to work out the text, so please send it. In the meantime, I am actively working on the oil painting. Thanks, Ruslan

 

Ruslan, These look really good. Will probably go with them - Do you think that they will stand out as thumbnails which is the way ebooks are presented? What color lettering do you recommend. We want standout colors as u might suspect. Please explain my latest invoice.

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

We agreed earlier that the working on the sketch(es) is considered separately from the final scene ($XXX).

 

It always has been. Believe me, I try to do everything at the most reasonable low prices. I said that if there will be more 3 versions of the sketch, it will be considered separately. In fact, I added $XXX to the normal working, because I had already made 6 versions. But I think that the detailed drawing and sepia will cost $XXX. The main problem is that the original ideas were changed and I had to make new compositions, change the format.  For example, at first, the crows have to go where Toto, then they must be turning from Toto in the opposite direction and run away. Recently you wanted to change the composition to horisontal format.

 

I have reviewed the last new ideas to work in the seventh frame of the scene (one sketch to this is included in the $XXX). You want to move Toto and William in the distance, and the birds in the foreground. After serious consideration of these ideas, I came to the conclusion that the original concept loses its foundation. Previously, the dog's eye was a key image and was in the foreground. Since you want to move Toto, his eye will be small and it will not work. Also, mutual spatial relationships between the characters will be lost. They will be approximately equal in size and Toto not in priority. I hope for your understanding.

 

Let's finish this scene, and then will work on the next one.

 

Please pay for the done work and I will continue to work on the next sketch.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

It would sure make me happy if you could copy me on the earlier emails where I agreed all sketches were to be $XXX and limited to three before I pay again. All of our discussions are in Guru. I would rather be wrong and eat crow, then be mad.

 

On another note.  The focus of this scene was NEVER the eye.  The focus has always been the crows. Their reaction to the eye popping open and scaring them. I kept wondering why you kept making the cow and Toto so big. I kept mentioning how crammed up the scenes were with Dorothy at weird angles, and after commenting, I would get another scene with everything still bunched up and crammed in vertical.

 

Now you still want to make the image in a vertical layout. If you can pull this off now that you seem to understand what I am asking for and you can get the text in without this scene looking as tight as the others, the earlier versions, that would be excellent because everything would be bigger and the excellent detail you provide could more easily be appreciated.  However, if you can't then I don't want to pay for any more practice runs.

 

I like the action of the crows in the last scene. Would it be better to show their posture a second or so before they take flight, before they fully turn around. I understand that you are modeling the images I sent you, but I could not find an image showing what I am trying to describe now. I was thinking of an image with one crow turning away and the other with feet off the ground looking forward with wings sweeping him-her backward? Remember, the female does not have a full tail of feathers and one of them has to be notably bow legged.

 

Just do the best you can. I wish I could draw well enough to better communicate. Regardless of my annoyance, I take the blame for being half of the problem...my inability to express in words what I hope to see on canvas.

 

Peeky

 

 

Peeky

 

I will have time to review it this weekend.

 

Peeky

 

Peeky

 

The birds are getting close. The scene is getting a bit closer - I agree to the fees for the crows. However, the sketch is taking a lot of time because you keep attempting scenes that are not laid out as I have tried time and again to explain.  You can bill for the $XXX if it comes off the price of the final finished scene. If that does not seem fair, I will pay you the $XXX, but I will give you another scene to work on while I get this one finalized. I am attaching another explanation. Also look at my last attempt at a scene. It is similar.

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I submitted the invoice.

 

Please pay it and after that I will make and send a new sketch. Do you want it in the horizontal format?

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

OK I gave you a choice in the last email... Will the price of the sketch come off the final $XXX price of the completed scene?  Please review my previous email. Thx

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I would like to submit the invoice today.  If will need to make some reasonable changes,

 

of course I'll do it. Waiting for your reply.

 

Thanks.

 

Ruslan

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I rearranged sketch in horizontal format and made additional changes. Also see the attached sequence of the work on the composition. I did all the illustrations in a vertical format, because it can contain a larger image area. I attached one of the made illustrations and the current one to compare.

 

Also I made the people birds in color. I added some tints in the plumage of the male. It looks more vivid and bright. I think need not to make too crooked legs and big buttocks for her, otherwise it looks ugly.

 

All this work and the changes took a lot of time. I would like to submit an invoice for the work done.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

Peeky

Bird man looks pretty good.

 

Bird lady - make her bow legged (obvious) and raise he leg feathers so you can see more leg please.  Also, She is supposed to look dowdy as she is the female of the specie.  She looks identical to him and she can't.

 

https://www.google.com/webhp?sourceid=chrome-instant&ion=1&espv=2&ie=UTF-8#q=contrast%20male%20and%20female%20birds

 

 

Her tail feathers are too full considering that the image you will use in the scene will have far fewer and a good deal more butt.

 

As far as color, the male should be splendid - deep rich hues with a good sheen - like the fur on a young black dog.  Color his arms and legs and human parts as best you can to make them stand out and give him an old face.

 

Her colors should be black, perhaps sight grey edge -  but dull and color human parts to to contrast please....

 

thaznk you.

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

Peeky,

 

I made a new sketch. The result is quite a complex composition. I depicted Toto so that she looks in the direction of Dorothy. Due to the large eye and 5 characters there is very little space for text. But I made 2 versions: with and without text. It would be better not to place the text at all.

 

I just got your message, so I will make the changes in the bird lady and I'll send it tomorrow.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

Peeky


I don't understand why the scene has to be vertical. It is not working Please try it horizontal. I like the birds! Toto still looks like a dog.


Peeky

 

 

Peeky


See attachment

 

Crow_scene_power_pt_explanation_final_to_Ruslan.pdf

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky, I made a human butt to the female bird and bony knees to male bird. Now part of the wing butt covered with a wing, but in the illustration with raised wing it will be more pronounced.

 

If everything is okay, I will do them in more detail and in color as I do usually. Do you have any suggestions on color? Waiting for your reply.

 

Just received a text on the scene, I will see it. While  I see that you have turned Toto with open eye, but in this case it will looking at the viewer, and not at the birds and Dorothy. Do you want that it looking in the direction of the viewer? But it is contrary to the text.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

Peeky

 

His eye is supposed to be looking at the birds not Dorothy. Dorothy is explaining to the birds he is a dog not a parasite. Dorothy is looking at the birds also. The birds are reacting to toto looking at them.

 

I copied and reversed your image and drew an eye - to make my point not because I wanted it looking where it appears.  I will look at the bird tomorrow.Good night

 

Peeky

 

 

 

Changing Book Cover to Keep Toto in the concept.


Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I made a sketch to the bird lady. I added some women's features to the image. Hope you will like it.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky

 

Thank you Ruslan, I do like them. However, I was serious about wanting the female bird to have a human butt in transition with incomplete development of tail feathers.  The position of the birds will be animated in the scene and more of that anatomy will be apparent. It might help if she was less developed then he.  I don't care which, of the two you modify, but I would like one of them to have bony knees and be somewhat bow legged.

 

Thank you - I will send you no later than tomorrow, a rendition of this scene. Perhaps that will get us on the same page.

 

Peeky

 

 

Peeky


The bird man is ok. When you draw bird lady, give her a butt with a crop of feathers coming out from it or over it please as it will fit in the scene. I will explain the way I want the scene tomorrow.


Peeky

 

 

Peeky

 

Is this the image you said I did not respond to?  If not send me the image again and I will respond if I have not.

 

Peeky

 

Sketch_2_modifications072216_2.docx

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

Today I made a new sketch (I depicted the characters on the left closer) and attached all the sketches to the scene.

 

I would like to repeat: it is necessary to show Toto with a fragment of William in the foreground and desirable on the right, that I did. There is limited space on the left, where need to place the three characters that have to interact with Toto. They should not be small. I did my best to be able to show the emotions of the characters (as you want) in the detailed drawing in this book format.

 

There are certain laws of composition in the plane of the sheet. Also see my yesterday's message.

 

You did not answer regarding the new version of the bird man.

I attached it again. Please answer on this and I will work on the bird woman.

I am waiting for your reply.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

Peeky


Modifications attached


Peeky

 

Sketch_2_modifications072216.docx

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

Please see the new sketch.

 

I made some changes to the extent possible, taking into account the narrow format. The need to focus on the Toto's eye does not allow to reduce it. Therefore, there is little space to scale and change the other three characters. For the landscape there is a little space, because there must be a relationship between the Toto's eye and other characters. Also you want to place the text. I can not yet work in detail with the birds, because I did not get an answer about the modified image I posted recently. There is a contradiction: you want to show emotions and landscape. There are 4 characters that have to interact and you we can not show them small. Since the composition is saturated, it is necessary to place a small amount of the text. Hope for your understanding.

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

I made the new bird man. I do not think that need to do dark arms, otherwise they will not be seen on the background of dark feathers.

 

You have not said anything regarding the sketch which I sent yesterday.

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

I am attaching a shorter version of the original description for this scene.

 

Currently it misses the purpose of the scene in many ways.

 

Bird People are startled (body languages,facial features)

 

The image of Toto is supposed to be an open eye in this weird unrecognizable  clump appearing to hang from a nipple. -  I would think since Dorothy is the one speaking most of the text we would want to see her with an amused facial scene...

 

The scene is not about William yet he takes up most of the canvas.

 

I think landscape would work better.

 

Peeky

 

Toto_Hanging_Beneath_William2.docx

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I made a new version of the sketch. It is the preliminary sketch to show the composition.

 

If you want that Toto's eye works, need to increase Toto. It is also necessary to show that she is looking in the direction of Dorothy and the bird people.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I have done a preliminary sketch of the composition.

 

This illustration has has a feature: need to show Toto in the foreground so that will work, and William partly due to vertical format of illustration. Also I am waiting your notes regarding the bird man.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky

 

OK - This is the trouble with English. Everything has 22 meanings. I understand your vision of the crown.  Here is the definition I was considering...basically a smooth crow head of feathers...

 

Crown (anatomy)

From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

 

For other uses, see Crown.

[https://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/8/86/Red-crowned_Crane_Grus_japonensis_Head_2600px.jpg/220px-Red-crowned_Crane_Grus_japonensis_Head_2600px.jpg]

 

A red-crowned crane

 

The crown is the top of the head, or the whole head.

 

Contents

  [hide]

 

  *   1Human

  *   2Bird

  *   3Whale

  *   4See also

  *   5References

 

Human[edit]

 

Crown can mean the top of the head and it can also mean the whole head.[1] In the study of human anatomy the terms "Calvaria, "skullcap", "skull cap", or the "roof of the cranial cavity" are used for the top part of the head.[2]

 

Bird[edit]

 

In bird anatomy, the crown is the top of the head, or more specifically the zone from the frons, or forehead, extending posteriorally to the occiput and laterally on both sides to the temples. The upper part of the head, including frons, crown and occiput, is sometimes called the pileum.[3]

 

So...here are some images of crows...

 

https://www.google.com/search?q=images+of+crows+and+ravens&espv=2&biw=1600&bih=775&tbm=isch&tbo=u&source=univ&sa=X&ved=0ahUKEwjhksqlsP7NAhVD1B4KHVLvDzIQ7AkINg 

 

If you keep the following concept in mind, perhaps designing will be easier...My surprise continued when what I had mistaken for her shawl and his cap turned out to be crowns of short feathers that had replaced the hair of their heads. The reality before us was one of twixt and between; two old people had become part bird or two birds had become part old people.

 

We want Characters that are both. Bird man is much more bird than human.

 

We want the parts of them that are bird to look like a crow or raven, not like a person in a feather suit.

 

Feathers should look natural like they would on a real bird.

 

His head should look like a crows head...give him some ears and/or a beard. His face features is probably fine. Perhaps his chin and nose could be slightly elongated, but not as extreme as your drawing...Leave the neck or  parts of it human. Remember half and half...

 

In the bird shape, perhaps some tail feathers coming out of their butts.  butts could be human.

 

I described their arms and legs as human and guant and dark. My screw up - gaunt is the opposite of dark. So if they are gaunt they will stand out aga the black feathers.

 

The description references because their human parts, their arms, and legs were gaunt and dark

 

The shape of their bodies should be somewhat bird like.

 

Some of the suggestions above are only suggestions to give you some ideas of how to get to half and half.

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I made a man bird. I depicted his wings so that it looks like clothes.

 

Hope you will like it.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky

 

Good first try. But no. He looks too much like an indian chief...old west america. He has to look half human and this guy looks like a man in a bird costume.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

That's right, this corresponds to your text:  "their coats was actually their feathers."

 

"The bird people have bird feet" - corresponding

 

"The old man was on the far side of her and as we drew nigh, I saw that he wore a similar coat of feathers, but his was in better condition" - corresponding

 

"expressive faces, with more wrinkles than a cotton shirt, marked them as clearly human. Their noses, however, were well on the way to becoming beaks and claimed a great part of their face." - corresponding

 

"his cap turned out to be crowns of short feathers that had replaced the hair of their heads." - Of course, it will be like an indian chief.

 

Let me know what you want to change exactly.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

I just thought that you want two different covers, as it was in the previous set,  and this would be logical.

 

I am working on the bird people and going to send them tomorrow.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

I am not opposed to a different cover - I am always open to ideas. I prefer to hear more from you as you have the gift to see what I can't. But that particular image really had no bearing or I could not relate it to the second book. Keep the ideas coming...please.

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I think it would be good and logically to do a silhouette picture for the Trial of Tears. Please see the attached pencil sketch of it.

 

I am thinking about the illustration. This would include such characters: William, Toto, Dorothy and two birds-people. Right? Regarding the two new characters: it is necessary to do them before I start working on the composition. These are fairly complex peculiar characters.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky

 

I appreciate you trying, but that image doesn't do anything for me. I understand with the bird people.

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

Yes, I agree, it can be cropped, and I did it, but a little differently and also improved something there.

 

I redid it everywhere: on the cover, on realistic images of the books and in PDF for stamping. I also attached a PDF for printing of the cover. If will need to add some text on the back cover, will do it.

 

I am studying the text to the next scene and thinking about the composition.

 

Thank you,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

Book-3.pdf

 

Picture_-3.pdf

 

Peeky

 

I agree to pay but you may have to move some words around as I have not gotten feedback from the publisher.

 

Peeky

 

Peeky

 

Also you will have to put the bottom book on top like you did with the first cover. The bottom book will be trail of tears.  they really look good. The b/w is very interesting. Do not waste more time until I get things finalized.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

Okay, it is possible, but advisable not greatly change the composition.

 

Now I just showed leather texture of different colors. Of course, need to make a version with Trail of tears on top. But first, need to develop a silhouette image in a similar style and I know how to do that. Let's back to this a little later.

 

I sent the invoice.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

You can use the same art on the second book. It will likely be identical to the first but for the name and "book two".

 

Peeky

 

 

Peeky


Thank you for the images, I will pass them along to the publisher for his feedback. Here is the next scene attached.

 

Toto_Hanging_Beneath_William.docx

 

Peeky


I think these are really good...but I would like you to trade out the image like the one I am attaching. I want to see a comparison.

 

Thank you.

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

Regarding the realistic book images, I began to develop it before working on the image for the stamp and on the text. It was important to choose such leather texture that will work well for the presentation and it works. Please see the attached modified cover. Such composition is optimal, because if to show all the text on the upper part, it will be overloaded. Interval and rhythm are important. It is impossible to increase the image any more. No need to show too much area of ??the golden image.

 

Hope for your understanding,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 Peeky

 

This looks pretty good. Let me pass that around. I like it.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Hello Peeky,

 

Glad you liked it.

 

I made the image of realistic books with leather texture.

 

Also I made PDF images for printing (mask). It is necessary for the technology and suitable for stamping and things like that.

 

You mentioned that have some other scenes. I would like to create more works now, while there is an opportunity. Please send the information on the next scene.

 

Thanks,


Ruslan

 

 

Picture.pdf

 

Picture_-2.pdf

 

 

Peeky


I am trying some ideas out on Power Point as it is the best I can do to get an idea of a link. You need not spend any time on the books until I do which I will try to do in the next day (I started), but here are some issues with these books.

 

1. can u make the image larger?

 

2. The title of each book has to be on the cover - there are no titles

 

3. 1900 - 2020 CELEBRATING 120 YEARS Collectors' Edition

 

4. The text beneath the cover image makes no sense and needs to come off.

 

5. The "1900 - 2020" is a span of years and makes no sense unless incorporated together. I made mistake by giving them to you separated. Your illustration shows me they do not work the way I suggested.

 

Like I say...let me work on this before you waste any time.


Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I did the design with text and an image of the realistic books with  leather texture.

 

I put "PEEKY" on the spine so that the front cover does not look "overloaded".

 

Hope you will like it.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

Okay, I am going to send the design with the text tomorrow.

 

Will some text on the spine and back cover?

 

Thanks,


Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

Unless you have some other ideas for the spine...You can work with the text as you like in its placement.

 

Peeky

 

 

Peeky


OK on this cover design...they thought it looked great. Now we need to add...

 

1900 Collectors Edition 2020 - This can be small

 

The Wizard Was Odd trilogy

 

Author

 

Title

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky


Peeky, glad you liked it.


Happy Independence Day!


Ruslan

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

Please see the attachment. I did this image as the sample to would be clear what I meant.

 

This was done deliberately without a halftone like silhouette and is suitable for stamping with gold.

 

Hope you will like it.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky


Thank you for doing that, Ruslan, that does look pretty cool. I will pass it around to get feedback and in the next day or two get you the next scene.

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello ,

 

I like the idea of ??black& blue leather book cover. it's desirable to make it dark blue, not black neutral.

 

I can make a realistic marble texture for offset (or other) printing. Alternatively, you can use textured paper (cardboard) with marble imitation. There is an idea to create simplified illustrations for the covers in the rectangle. It would be recreated from the made images for embossing or a single color. This would have a hard edge without halftone and it would be appropriate for one-color printing in gold, in a small size (for screen printing is also acceptable).  That would make these covers interesting for viewing.

 

Hope you will like this idea.

 

Best regards.

 

Ruslan

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello ,

 

I like the idea of ??black-blue leather book cover. it's desirable to make it dark blue, not black neutral.

 

I can make a realistic marble texture for offset (or other) printing. Alternatively, you can use textured paper (cardboard) with marble imitation. There is an idea to create simplified illustrations for the covers in the rectangle. It would be recreated from the made images for embossing or a single color. This would have a hard edge without halftone and it would be appropriate for one-color printing in gold, in a small size (for screen printing is also acceptable).  That would make these covers interesting for viewing.

 

Hope you will like this idea.

 

Best regards.

 

Ruslan

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

There is some kind of bug in my message - (??), so do not pay attention.

 

This occurs sometimes because I write text in one program, and then insert into the window at the Guru and see the result only after the sending.

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

Might like once I see. I can't relate without seeing. However, with respect to cover material, color, and stamping (the pattern applied to the book cover), I will have to choose from those offered in the link that I sent to you. Because this is what I have to work with.

 

Peeky

 

 

Peeky

 

Greetings Ruslan. This link will take you to some book cover material. The art that you did for the first two books will be used as glossy covers for paperbacks.

 

https://www.ecofibers.com/products/rainbow-uncoated-paper/rainbow-80

 

I am looking at the color midnight for book one and two of the middle grade edition. And I am considering either the gray or gold marble for the highend book One and two edition.

 

Also, this link will show you the book material pattern, call the stamping, toward the bottom, after the color. I have not decided on that yet. But I will work out these details within the next week, hopefully with the publisher. I would like both mid and Hiend books to have logo displayed prominently on the cover. I understand that if we go with the gold marble that we will need an outline around the logo to set it apart from the gold and the cover. I was thinking of a silowet of the wizard might be a very interesting separationof the cold and the cover and the gold and the logo. However, I hope you have some ideas as far as creativity for either cover as I would be receptive.

 

We need the authors name, the book name, the trilogy name, and on the highend edition I am thinking of some commemorative language such as celebrating 115 years or commemorative edition.

 

In closing, the sooner that you come up with some really cool, creative ideas then the sooner you can start on it.

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

 

Hello Peeky,

 

Glad everything is okay with the font. I have found the texture to the leather cover. It would be good to create the next image of the future books. What text should be on these covers?

 

Please let me know more in detail.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky


OK, I will look at it. Maybe I am losing it. It is much easier for me to accept that you are losing it, rather than I.


Peeky

 

I stand corrected, thanks for taking the time to make this comparison. I appreciate it!

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

I have already said that a thin font will not work (AgantGardeCyr). In the latest version I changed the range kerning (AdverGothic), and it is easy to read, you approved this version.

 

Please specify what do you mean and attach a sample.

 

Thank you.

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky

 

Take a look at the top image Cover II - there is a faint line of canvas running down the left side. It might not matter to the printer, but if I use the image elsewhere, I do not want to have to trim it.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

This was probably due to the high compression during saving to PDF. I reduced compression and there are smoother color transitions. Hope that everything will be OK. It is attached.

 

Ruslan

 

Cover_II_1-2-3-new-3.pdf

 

Peeky


Ruslan - this has the old font that you replaced. It is the wrong image. Also can you make the correct one with bleed so I know what it is. It helps if we give these things names. I had to look around to find the correct one and I am not sure it is. You adjusted it after the first draft with the new font.


Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

It is strange...


I attached a sample with the covers which were sent earlier with your comments. This is the same font. Please see my message of June 18. I increased a range kerning and you liked it.

 

Also the bleed is already considered.

 

Best regards,


Ruslan

 

 

Peeky

 

?????????????????????????? These are the books - there is nothing wrong with them. Please refer to the last email and open book cover file that you removed the left border line. That is the old font that was too crowded. All of these images are on guru - please consider following the timeline until you get the right one. thx We are speaking about the text on the front and back inside flaps. This was replaced.

 

Peeky

 

 

Peeky

 

Reminder - book two on spine plz

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello ,

 

Please clarify what do you mean: "Reminder - book two on spine plz".

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

On the spine of both books you have book one. Trail of tears is book two. This needs to be corrected in all of the illustrations and open book cover for Book two

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello ,

 

Indeed, I missed it, sorry.

 

I placed "book two" on the spines. Please see the attached images.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

Cover_II_1-2-3-new-2_2.pdf

 

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I submitted the invoice.

 

Thank you,

 

Ruslan

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

Glad you liked it. If will need any correction I will do it. I would like to submit an invoice for the work done: $XXX for the cover design and $60+60 for the books images.

 

I am waiting for the detail on the next set and am finding the texture of the skin. It seems there are interesting versions.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

That is not what you said...I feel like I'm getting gouged.

 

Also take a look at Trail of Tears. That is book 2; everyone has book one on it.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

I know that you asked to do only one image:

 

"Toto's Tail" on the "Trail Of Tears". However, I decided to make the two images, there is a version, where "Trail Of Tears" above, this is from a different angle, and also shows the spines of the books. Each color realistic picture I estimated at $XXX. You can choose any. However, I think that is good to show both images for advertising. So I specified $XXX for the first and $XXX for the second picture. I attached the picture to compare.

 

"Trail Of Tears" (PDF)

 

Work on the design, layout, text, working on the lower background for the text I estimated at $XXX: ($XXX back cover + $XXX flap1 + $XXX flap2) I already considered the bleed.

 

If necessary additional correction, I'll do it for free.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

 

Peeky

OK

Peeky

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I made the images of future realistic books. There are two versions to show different books and spines. So it is more informative. Hope you will like it.

 

I will sent the modified PDF tomorrow,

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

 

 

Peeky

 

WOW - there is nothing else to say...I guess I could say WOW!

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

Tomorrow I will send the first color image (2 glossy books)

 

Best regards.

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

Here u go!

 

Dust_Jacket_Text_Book_2_Trail_of_Tears_06616_3.docx

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

Thank you for the samples. Either way need to do sketches.

 

I will look for the better angle. Looking forward to other details.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

I understand. The books are to be 6x9" with a spine width of no more than two inches. I see no reason why you can't start on the glossy cover books now as you have pretty much completed the art on both dust jackets and that is the art we will use on the glossy books.

 

I am attaching a design I would like you to consider because my space is limited. In fact it is limited so that I must show three sets of books in three images.  If you follow a layout like the ones I am attaching, then you will only need to  show the cover and spine on the top book and a partial cover and spine on the bottom book. Book one - Toto's Tale, Book 2 - Trail of tears

 

One set of both will be glossy covers

 

The other two sets I will work on.

 

Peeky

 

    

 

 

 

 

 

Peeky

 

On Sun, Jun 12, 2016 at 3:00 PM, Peeky> wrote:

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

I am hoping you can help me out with this. I would like to present what the physical books will look like in Kickstarter.

 

One set of books 1 and 2 will use the same art as a book cover that we are using for the dust jacket. It will be glossy and there will be no inside flaps.  I am not wanting the pure art, but an image of a book with a glossy cover. The books can be partly open and at any angle to best display it

 

Another set of Books will be black with Gold Foil lettering. The skin of the book will have a pattern. I am not sure it would show  up or need to as I could include a swath. This will be easier as you will only have to show the front and spine. - The amount of text will be no more than the dust covers you are doing now.

 

The final set of books Will be just like the previous set. However,  it will likely have a different color, texture, and possibly different foil color. It will also have additional wording "Commemorative Edition: 115 Years" or something to that effect.

 

I am telling you now so I do not forget - all of the books will have a rounded back, footbands and headbands.

 

If you can quote me a price, this might be our next project.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

As I understand need to depict realistically future books.

 

Please answer my questions:

 

One set of books 1 and 2.

 

- In fact are these two sets? How many books will include each?

 

What is the thickness of one book?

 

Another set of Books will be black with Gold Foil lettering. -

 

To make such cover, I have to develop a design first. I think need to show

 

these books at the same angle as the previous sets to keep the style.

 

The final set of books will be just like the previous set. However,  it will likely have a different color, texture, and possibly different foil color.

 

 - What should be the texture? (Need the same angle)

 

I am telling you now so I do not forget - all of the books will have a rounded back, footbands and headbands. - Please send me the samples, how it should look?

 

Please let me know regarding the last cover design (PDF), I would like to submit an invoice for it.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

Thank you for your prompt response. I wanted to confirm that you could do it and wanted to; now I can pull together the details.

I will be back in touch

 

Peeky

 

OK - I will get details. Here are some examples - you can type open book images also.

 

 

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

Let's go back to CD theme when the books will be finished.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Sure, but here is the problem. If I am going to present it as a Kickstarter reward, then I have to know what to ask for it and my cost.  I will be doing this in six weeks.  Once we raise the money, you will have 12 more scenes, only after that can I complete the books.

 

I will not offer the CD - I hope you understand the process.

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Dear Peeky,

 

I would like to confine to the design and making of the art prints, something that is peculiar to me as an artist. Need to know to plan my shedule will be any illustration/Image/design in the near future or it will be in 6 weeks? I understand you, but If to do the illustrations in this rate it will take another few years.

 

I think, we must move bit forward...

 

Meanwhile, I will think how to help you in the realization of the CD idea.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

I understand your logic.  I have been doing the art necessary to prepare the way for Kickstarter which includes social media art, book design, etc. Also the scene art you have completed is to show samples of the quality product I am offering so the contributors know what they are getting. The Kickstarter campaign lasts for 30 days. I believe there will be more than adequate funds generated. Once we have dollars pledged, i will need the remaining twelve scenes  as soon as you can deliver as my kickstarter commitment is to have a digital version with images distributed by November and printed material by December.

 

So I do not need the CDs to raise the money. I thought by offering them, it would bring an additional income stream to Kickstarter.

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

Please see the attached PDF with the last changes.

 

I made the blurred lightning in the bottom in the title, because it is better for the theme and composition.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

Cover_II_1-2-3_2.pdf

 

Peeky

 

OK - I understand printing on the actual disk.

 

I thought of a sleeve as one of the two attachments - the brown envelope and the multi color paper things.

 

So looking at your image, there really is no sleeve as I understand it - Yes or No?

 

Looking at your image, I see Iron man on one side and some other robot on the other. This has art on the inside flaps and most likely on the outside? Do you intend to have different images for the front of the case, back of the case, and inside? Please explain.

 

Also, in that this is supposed to be a collector limited edition, we should offer it in a more resilient case. Please take a look at the other images below.

 

Can you provide me a quote if we upgrade our product. Please provide a price for each of the other styles that I have attached as images. Most of these came from the bison site below. I do not care who you use. I do not expect you to work for free. I have referenced this site to better understand what we are offering and to make sure the quality is there.

 

Before you quoted me a shipping price per 100 to me in USA Tampa. I really have no need to put my hands on this product. It will include the series, but will also have finished art, drafts, and sketches. So it is pretty much all about you.Therefore, if you are willing and able, I will pay you a handling fee to package each one, the cost of secure packaging, and the cost of mailing in addition to the hard costs of the product.

 

Here is where I require some help - How can we come up with an approx postage estimate. You will likely be shipping most to USA, but there will be orders from around the world. I would like these mailed/shipped so that they can be tracked.

 

https://nationwidedisc.com/dvd-duplication-in-amaray-cases2

 

http://www.bisondisc.com/instantquote/

 

 If you do not object to handling distribution from your location, then we will do the same with the limited edition prints. Hopefully we can use heavy duty tubes. When you are finished, I expect to have sixteen scenes in total and people will be able to order anywhere between one and sixteen. So pricing the costs of shipping may be interesting. If you can firm up some numbers over the next week or so for the prints and CDs, this would be a huge help. I need this to cost out my rewards and I want to start my Kickstarter campaign in early July.

 

    

 

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

Yes, I meant to have different images for the front of the case, back of the case, and inside. I like this version. I think my version is most appropriate. It will be qualitatively made of cardboard and laminated with matt laminate.

 

Regarding the periodical packaging and sending, I would not want to do it, because I have a lot of projects and plan to do my creative art works.

 

You can give me to make a design for CD and CD covers and you can order printing on the site, a link to which you sent. I think the prices are reasonable there. But it will be without my signature and my print control..

 

What about the last modified PDF, which I sent you yesterday?

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

OK. I did not send you the link to the CD sites for any other reason than for you to review and possibly consider other packaging options. I want you to handle that project.  I understand about your not wanting to get involved with shipping. Perhaps you have a company in your town that I can work with after you create and sign. Over here we have pack and send, Fed Ex, Etc. Perhaps you can make a call now and again when we get closer. Here is a good reason you might want to help me find someone.  If I ship CDs from USA - it can cost up to $XXX for one to send overseas to most places.  This will bump the price and turn off a lot of global people. It will be cheaper if sent from your location globally except for USA.  Also, the same with the Giclee - that can cost upward of $XXX easy for a few images in a tube.  That will be a deal breaker for many.  What we save in shipping globally will fund additional sales...  Again, I am only looking for a good company that understands English and is relyable.

 

Yesterday, I sent the draft to the printer to review. I will share his words of wisdom when he responds.

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I changed the book cover. It is attached.

 

Regarding the CD.

 

I suggest such version. This will be done as in the attached photo.

 

The price from 300 pieces is:

 

Cost of CD with art on the actual CD including limited edition and numbered (CD recording + printing on the CD) - $XXX.

 

Such cover with plastic box, including design and printing on the cover - $XXX.

 

These prices include my signature on the CD or on the cover for your choice.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

Cover_II_1-2-3.pdf

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

Is everything okay with the PDF, which I sent yesterday? I can go ahead and create new illustration.

 

How many scenes (approximately) do you plan to do?

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

It requires adjustment. I will forward later. Alligators up to my knees now.

 

Peeky

 

Peeky

 

Thank you for the clarification on the CDs, I will look it over.

 

On the cover, can you please make these changes...

 

Back Flap - can you put a bit more space between the sentences? Also, can you move the text up so that perhaps all of it has the dark sky-stars as a back drop.

 

Back Cover - This looks much better and seems to be a good way to deal with emphasis - thank you. Please note the words on the monument. You changed the color to match the emphasized term, however, you failed to color the last line of the poem the same as the first three lines

 

Also, the text following the last line of the poem tends to bleach out. Please move the logo and the sentence following it to the bottom of that page and raise the block of text so that none of it remains on the grey landscape.

 

Change the wording starting with...Sighing softly as follows.

 

Sighing softly in passing, a parched and torrid wind spread upward upon the mountain face behind us. In its wake, the malevolent shriek of a banshee cry followed with a second wave of blistering heat, courtesy of Hell's Hearth. Like the whistle of a freight train, its sorrowful bale waned in passing.

 

The sentence before (Sighing softly) is fine and so is the one following (waned in passing).

 

Spine - I like the layout that you did in the first cover. Please emulate that style and add the text Book 2.

 

Front Cover - Please figure out a way to put The Wizard Was Odd Trilogy on the front cover w the lightning bolt like Book 1 Front Flap - we may need to remove the last sentence as the flap is cluttered and we have the same concept beneath the Logo.

 

Front Flap - danger expanse of land inhabited ( add land to sentence)

 

miscreations - delete apostrophe: miscreation's

 

When you get done, if any of the text looks cramped - please try line spacing a bit. You can send me different proofs or experiments.

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

I made the bookcover. PDF is attached.

 

Here are the answers to your questions:

 

1) Is there an additional cost for your signature? - $XXX.

 

2) Also, each include an clear plastic case? - Not, I meant only the cardboard envelope. The problems may occur with plastic case. It is better to use the cardboard envelope.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

Cover_1-2-3.pdf

 

Peeky

 

I am not suggesting we put art on the plastic cover. I am suggesting we have a high-quality plastic case to enhance the appearance of the cardboard sleeve. If this is to be a collectors item, it has to look like one. No matter how nice the slaeve is, A sleeve and a CD alone or just plain look tacky especially since it supposed to be a limited edition which should have some protection because it is supposed to be valuable. I will probably pass on this idea because it will not come up to the same standard as the book and R. It may look virus but it is the whole package that matters.

 

I will send some modifications to the cover tomorrow. There is way too much text and much of it is too small

 

Sent from my iPhone

 

Peeky

 

Thx Ruslan - see the attachment for comments

 

Peeky

 

Dust_Jacket_Text_Book_2_Trail_of_Tears_060616.docx

 

Peeky

 

http://www.amazon.com/Sting-Police-Hand-Signed-Limited-Anniversary/dp/B00C9O6BYO

 

http://www.ebay.com/bhp/rush-signed

 

Peeky

 

Peeky

 

pretty sure I sent this...attachment

 

Dust_Jacket_Text_Book_2_Trail_of_Tears_060616-2.docx

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

There is nothing in your message ( only - " see below") . Please send it again.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

I sent it yesterday...

 

Re: Today is Ruslan Vigovsky's birthday

 

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Happy B'day - was that yesterday 6-03-16? Or today?

I would like to wish you happy b'day as follows. I understand you may have plans for the next week or three, but when your schedule allows, please take your lovely wife to a fine restaurant and send me the bill (as you would any bill thru guru or) I can paypain you if you send me a different email. Try to keep it under $XXX! (Try...) Happy B'day...

 

Peeky

 

Peeky

 

Did u get this one - with hilited questions?

 

It followed on the tail of the one where u quoted me prices for cd. Below is a message from Ruslan Vigovsky for Project ID: 1252497, "Graphic Art".

 

Peeky, I agree for sure, the scenes were surely complex.

 

The price for Illustrations depends on the complexity from $XXX to $XXX. $XXX is for the simple illustration with one character. All the latest scenes were complicated with a lot of characters, so the price is $XXX. While working on the illustrations the scenes and requirements become more complex. Frankly, I would charge more for these comlex illustrations, but I will stick to our agreement.

-

Cost of CD with art on the actual CD including limited edition and numbered (CD recording + printing on the CD) - $XXX (100 - 500pcs).

 

Do you know of any examples or links that you could send me to on the internet that has successfully used limited edition CDs?

 

What do you meant regarding the stamp? (I think you mentioned this - creating a design for the limited edition prints...this may not apply. If yes how much more is it. And if no, you can sign or how do you personalize the CDs - you sign prints for example.

 

I think it is better to do paper (cardboard) envelope. Printing of 100 pcs - $XXX per one, 500 pcs - $XXX,XXX per one. Do these prices include art on the cardboard envelope?

 

Peeky

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

Thank you for the congratulation. We celebrated it yesterday (4 june).

I appreciate your offer. Let's assume that you have already paid the bill. :)

 

Here are my answers:

 

"Do you know of any examples or links that you could send me to on the internet that has successfully used limited edition CDs?"

- I don't know, it must be investigated.

 

"What do you meant regarding the stamp? (I think you mentioned this - creating a design for the limited edition prints...this may not apply. If yes how much more is it. And if no, you can sign or how do you personalize the CDs - you sign prints for example." –

- Yes, I can sign them.

 

I think it is better to do paper (cardboard) envelope. Printing of 100 pcs - $XXX per one, 500 pcs - $XXX,XXX per one. Do these prices include art on the cardboard envelope?

- Yes, these prices include design, I forgot to mention it.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

Is there an additional cost for your signature?

 

Also, each include an clear plastic case?

 

If not, how much?

 

Peeky

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

The price for Illustrations depends on the complexity from $XXX to $XXX. $XXX is for the simple illustration with one character. All the latest scenes were complicated with a lot of characters, so the price is $XXX. While working on the illustrations the scenes and requirements become more complex. Frankly, I would charge more for these complex illustrations, but I will stick to our agreement.

-

 Cost of CD with art on the actual CD including limited edition and numbered (CD recording + printing on the CD) - $XXX (100 - 500pcs).

 

How much EXTRA If I add art to a heavy duty sleeve (or is that a bad idea) $ - What do you mean?

 

What do you meant regarding the stamp?

 

I think it is better to do paper (cardboard) envelope. Printing of 100 pcs - $XXX per one, 500 pcs - $XXX,XXX per one.

 

For shipping of 100 pcs in paper envelopes - $XXX and 500 pcs - $XXX.

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

see below

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Thanks, Peeky

 

The book cover needs to adjust the sizes, including the bleed. On Monday evening I will send the design. From this Monday I will have more time for your project. Meanwhile you can prepare the next scene and I will start on it at once.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

Greetings Ruslan,

 

Since we are changing jobs I wanted to be sure that we are on the same page with terms: This is our original agreement: Do you agree to honor it now that we have changed the name to Graphic Art?

 

Oct 28, 2014 Hi Peeky, Thank you for the awarding, I accepted it. I will change the Wizard's face in the sketch and am going to send it tomorrow. We can communicate through e-mail as well. Here is my address: m Best regards, Ruslan

 

Oct 28, 2014 Ok thx. -Peeky

 

Oct 25, 2014 Dear Ruslan Vigovsky, Congratulations, I have selected more than one of you to work on this project with me. Each of you created some feature, characteristic, or piece of art that I found desirable and hope to incorporate in either the cover of my book or elsewhere within the book. Therefore, together we will work through this project and I will collaborate with each of you if you are agreeable to the following conditions. To move forward, I require that you agree to and understand these terms and conditions. Irrespective of where we are in whatever stage or refinement of this project, you relinquish any and all ownership interests in your contributions-creations. This applies whether I use them or not and regardless of whether they are sketches, drafts, ideas, renderings, complete and not, as well as all finished projects. In other words, as we go through this project, everything that you create as we work toward our goal of the book cover belongs to me. If I end up using one artist's ideas exclusively, then this artist may add his creation to his portfolio and will be recognized in each book produced. If the project is a collaboration, then all artists may use the final renderings in their portfolios if they show it as a collaborative effort. With respect to recognition within the book, I will show it as a collaborative effort listing the primary contributor first. Every sketch, idea, rendering, no matter how bad, please save it. When the project is over, if you mail these originals to me, signed, I will pay out a bonus to each of you covering the cost of postage and then some for your well-deserved help. Upon the completion of the project, my payment to you in full shall conclude our business on that particular project. If you are interested, I will offer other projects to you. I have several characters in the book. Like the cover, I would like your visions of what they might look like. If we can find a fit, I will pay one of you and I will not send it out to bid on Guru. However, if I do not find a rendering suitable, it will have nothing to do with your talents, yet I do reserve the right to reject your submissions and find an artist or artists from any source to complete each project. I also need a fantasy map of Oz. I have the details worked out and some sample maps that show the level of detail that I am seeking. In closing, the terms and provisions set forth above, apply to the book cover project, and any and all subsequent projects awarded to you. In other words, I own it, save the drafts until the end to receive a bonus and book and portfolio credit shall also apply. -Peeky

 

Oct 25, 2014 Dear Peeky, I am glad and hope for the fruitful cooperation. Yes, I agree to these conditions and am willing to create the other projects. Please award me the project at guru and I will start working on an illustration for the cover based on my sketch. Please let me know the exact size of the book cover. Thanks, Ruslan

 

Peeky

 

 On another note. What do I have to do to get some scenes at the lower end of the spectrum...

 

Mar 10, 2015

 

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Project Message From Ruslan Vigovsky:

 

Peeky,

 

If everything is okay, then I'll do it tomorrow in color.

 

At the beginning we agreed on the prices from $XXX to $XXX for an illustration, and the conversion to color $XXX.

 

For this illustration, I would like $XXX and $XXX for color conversion. When I finish the illustration in color I will invoice for everything.

 

Do you agree?

 

Thanks,

 

Ruslan

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Peeky,

 

Of course, our agreement remain in force, changed only the name of the project.

 

If you want we can communicate from the previous project,

 

and I will submit invoices from the new one. Thanks, Ruslan

               

Peeky

 

Thank you. I have no problem with the new one at all. I appreciate your prompt response. These are all questions I must prepare for in Kickstarter. Did you seem my question about the $XXX scenes at the very bottom of the communique?

 

Peeky 

 

I am trying to better understand what you were saying regarding the various price options on CDs with digital art.

 

Cost of CD with art on the actual CD including limited edition and numbered - $_________________

 

How much EXTRA If I add art to a heavy duty sleeve (or is that a bad idea) $------------------

 

How much EXTRA If I add art to a plastic cover instead of a sleeve (or is that a bad idea) $------------------

 

What were you saying about a stamp - if that applies to here, then how much more for that?

 

How much for shipping 100 ______________ and 500___________

 

Is the stamp you use instead of your signature or is it included in the art.

 

Can you sign CDs?

 

 

 

 

 

 

Wow! Impressive!

 

The title says it all.

 

But not the Text Layout...

The dust jacket art is still about the wizard.

Ruslan, Sketch 3 is great.

Suggestions:

 

The face of the Wizard MAY be able to slide a little more to the left leaving a little more room to make the cabin a wee bit bigger. If not OK. You did good in any event.

 

Show the commotion and debris at the base of the storm like you did in the original - with the cow and such.

 

Some lightning might be good along the back and spine...as the cover is long.

 

This is a long cover and the bottom part of it which now looks like rolling terrain, needs something. Can you show a path of destruction along the bottom - perhaps more homes, barns, damaged bus, train laying on its side, a swath of destruction through a corn or grain field.

 

Storms are on occasion green tinged and rampant shades of green, dark blue. I am attaching some images of storms that I find to be striking. If you use the suggestion below with devastation though a corn or grain field, I like the picture that has the green grass. It is a sweet contrast.

 

Sketch 4 Suggestions

 

This is good also. I would like to see a draft where the lightning comes out of the top of the Z - it can go off the page.

 

The lightning on the bottom of the Z has five fingers. Leave the finger closest to the right (near toto). The others extend out and snake into threads of nothing - even try some going off the page.

 

Free Press - I was interviewed.  Indyfest Interview.  In closing - Thank you - for a job well done!

Hello Bob,


I made a new sketch. It is done so that to keep scale and space. No need to increase the cabin, otherwise it will be worse. Also see a new version with Z - lightning. I made the lightning more realistic, but I think it got a slightly different meaning. Ruslan

Greetings Ruslan - see comments

 

You said that you are open to ideas and thought the same as me. I think it is not a good idea that cheeks should be concave from suction, not chipmunked. It will not show the pressure and will look like a man with a thin face and drawn in cheeks. I'm against it. My concept of the sketch is to show the face of Wizard as part of the disaster. On the previous cover, Wizard's face was part of a tornado and it was a good idea. Now the idea to make the Wizard's head less will not work, because it will look small and not to scale, even comical. It will not be a part of the element and will no expressive image of the background. Either way need to portray Wizard's head big so that it will work. I see one way: increase the cabin not up to the size of the original cover and look for the correct ratio of all objects. OK

As to a payment:


I would like for the first sketch version in a dust jacket format $XX. The next version would require a completely new approach and a new sketch. I will create a new relationship increasing the cabin and changing the proportions of the elements. I estimate working on a new version of the sketch $XX. It will be a completely new composition. OK

 

I attached another version of "Z" in the form of lightning. Price of working on these versions is $XX. OK, but can we incorporate real lightning as part of the Z - like eminating from it - there is lightning in tornados and such. Google lightning images... I have attached some real lightning. Perhaps it can come from the Z and spread into the picture

Our on-going conflicts continue. Ruslan is very concerned with symmetry, balance, and those other things that make an image appealing to the eye. It won't matter if it pretty if our design doesn't get the point  across. 

Toto is the principal character, not the Wizard. Trying to get this point across is proving to be difficult.

Ruslan


I am open to your ideas because you are good at what you do. The only other idea that I could come up with would be to split the cover Image so to speak. The face of the wizard instead of being in the upper right would be in the upper left .on the front cover and in the upper right on the back cover. The scene on the back would be a flip image of the scene on the cover.

 

Hello Bob, see the attached sketch. I had planned to place the text at the bottom. It will look impressive in the finished cover: Heavy realistic clouds, the feeling of the wind. Hope you will like it. Best regards, Ruslan

Ruslan, What if we use the current cover for the back cover? Could its current non-color image work or you could color it. I am open to ideas and thought the same as you. I know the front cover will require a sketch.
Thx for working with me on this and the Z...Save that draft of the "Z" because I have to pass it around. However, can you make one using realistic looking lightning it can spread out a bit...

Bob,


I think would be good to show the foul sky with storm clouds, the raging storm/hurricane so it was combined with the front cover. What do you think?

 

Okay, I will do more realistic lightning instead of the "Z". Ruslan


Ruslan


I am open to your ideas because you are good at what you do. The only other idea that I could come up with would be to split the cover Image so to speak. The face of the wizard instead of being in the upper right would be in the upper left .on the front cover and in the upper right on the back cover. The scene on the back would be a flip image of the scene on the cover.

 

Hello Bob,


Please see the attached sketch. I had planned to place the text at the bottom. It will look impressive in the finished cover: Heavy realistic clouds, the feeling of the wind. Hope you will like it. Best regards, Ruslan

 

Cover discussions and Book One Cover modification

FYI - Once the book is ready to market, it needs a thumbnail image that will attract readers attention.I did the first book in sepia and BW for that purpose. When I scanned countless thumbnails of book covers I saw a color sensory overload. There were very few books in all BW and none in Sepia. Now with the second book having a cover dust jacket, it makes the first book seem kind of ho-hum. So I want to get a color version.

Check it out!

Ruslan, I came up with an idea and may may not rename the first book. However, my idea is to substitute lightning or replace the Z in Wizard with Lightening. Will you be able to come up with any clever ideas to incorporate that or shall I search for images?

 

Best Wishes, Bob

 

Hello Bob,

 

I just finished an urgent project for the constant European customers, and will work in color on the super cover. As I understand do you want to replace the letter "Z" in the word "Wizard" with lightning? If so, I will think how it can be done. Also, I made the cover and attached two versions: with and without markings.
Hope you will like it.


Best regards, Ruslan

 

I changed the sketch so that it look integrally in rhythm. I hope you will like it. Only do not understand where to place the text?

Best regards,
Ruslan

 


Greetings Ruslan, 

I think this version is very close. I have one suggestion which I include in an attachment. I am including two ideas for letter placement, however, I am receptive to your suggestions. I will be glad to be done with this...how about you?

 

 

 

 

New The Wizard Was Odd Chapter Each Week...Expect it on Friday! Enjoy...

We are still working out an understanding of the art I want on the second book of the trilogy - Trail of Tears.

 

Hello Bob,

I made a sketch to the new cover.

Much will be visualized and clear in color, including the text.

Images of moving objects in the tone-color picture will be created with more bright lines on a dark background, the sketch made with pencil on paper, and so it looks a little conditional.

The entire space will be built in tone and color directly in the color picture.

Now it is necessary to approve the composition and structure of the movement.

Thanks,

Ruslan

Oct 29, 2015

Bob Moyer

I think it looks great. You might not need as many Jumberello in the finished product. Just trying to save you some digital ink. Please proceed.

New Chapter Each Week...Expect it on Friday! Enjoy...

Chapter 2 - Don't Sit Under the Apple Tree with Anyone!

 

 

More discussion on Flying-Floating and an illustration.

12-23-15

Hello Bob,
I try to change the sketch according to your comments, but there are some contradictions. To show the jumberellos floating necessary to depict them in motion. I did that. You would think that they fly, but how to show differently a floating movement? At the same time they are in the sky, but do not fly. To appease the "chaos" I am deleting those creatures which move in the opposite direction, although you mentioned earlier that they must move in different directions.
Ruslan

Dec 26


Greetings Ruslan...

Language is such a fickle lady...I surely try your patience, know it and regret it...

I am attaching some images which show a sense of motion - When I say floating, I am thinking of these illustrations and the images I am trying to convey to you. I really like the wallpaper attachment. It shows dimension, motion, is striking, and it has spacing for the other necessary parts of the book cover...

Flying vs Floating

Both flying and floating denote an object in suspension. In particular, flying is a term closely associated in aviation or air travel. It is often used in instances of movement or suspension in the air or the atmosphere. Flying also denotes movement and direction of mechanisms like airplanes and other aircraft. Flying happens when the aircraft is supported by a mechanism (a wing, in this instance) and with a high pressure under the wing and a lower pressure on its top.

In terms of speed, flying can be in either high or low speed. Direction can also refer to any point of geographical markers like north, south, east, and west.

On the other hand, “floating” is a word associated with water or any kind of fluid. Any object that is in suspension in water is expressed as a floating object. This can apply to many objects;vehicles like ships or boats or even human or other material objects like balls and other dense objects. It is also used as a term to describe suspension in outer space or any space without the presence of gravity. “Density” and “buoyancy” are common properties for objects in relation to floating and water. When used in the context of outer space, the term “weightless” is more appropriate.

Like flying, floating also denotes movement but in a non-specific direction. Floating also denotes a slow movement without any indication or control. In this respect, the word is akin to drifting or wandering but on water.

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Folks like the book and want to read it. I should qualify that. They like the first chapter as that is all I have shared.  Starting the first of the year, I will be posting a chapter a week.  By then the holidays will be over. Folks will be bored, cold, and holed up inside in much of the country or warm and humid in Florida. In either case, I hope to add a smile to dour winter faces and warm up some spirits with spark of amusement.

I will be updating my blog, Character and Scene developement in the near future.  Like this month, near future.  My artist tours Europe during the year and sketches things.... When he returned, he was behind the eight-ball and his efforts were directed elsewhere. (Bigger Clients - I am guessing).

 

Now he seems to be caught up and we have been working on the book cover for the second in the series. It is called Trail of Tears. Designing a book cover isn't easy.  The art is one thing and I am picky.  Design has to take into account title, author, Trilogy name, ISBN (that is the easy part as it goes on the back). As of today, we are on our second attempt at the art.  I have to approve B/W sketches before a color rendition is created. Then we deal with the lettering, color of the lettering, and font. I am not sure I like the first book font for the second book, but there needs to be at least a fibril of connection between the cover art of all three books.  

I have been spending a lot of time with social media - Facebook and Twitter.  I have a good following of authors, unpublished writers, and folks that provide services to the trade.  It is not time to reach out to Wizard of Oz fans.

 

I have been dabbling in Pinterest, but I get distracted by the recipes! When I am not distracted, the Wizard of Oz interest that shows up in so many ways is amazing and continues to surprise and baffle me. It is kind of like the Disney cult. Folks immerse themselves in the experience and it brings a great deal of satisfaction and peace of mind.

 

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Ashlee Christopher: WOW this blog is awesome! These look just like the ones ya get at the mall! First time here! Loving your blog :).
Thanks for sharing!
xox
Ash
http://abpetite.blogspot.com/ August 14, 2012 at 8:36pm Reply

Nicole, RD: These are a weakness of mine. I smell them and am instantaneously hungry…only for Auntie Anne’s! August 15, 2012 at 4:16am Reply

sally @ sallys baking addiction: Jaclyn, I think myself and the rest of the world can THANK YOU for posting what may be the best recipe on the planet! I am a huge sucker for those auntie anne’s pretzels. My bf and I split one every time we’re at the mall! I honestly cannot resist them. Never have made them at home but something tells me it would be very dangerous (but worth it!) if I gave it a go. :) August 15, 2012 at 7:49am Reply

Jaclyn: Thanks for your comments, hope you can make them very soon =)! August 15, 2012 at 8:51am Reply

Melanie: Ok, those pretzels look amazing (even BETTER than the mall variety and that’s saying a lot because I love the mall ones). August 15, 2012 at 3:07pm Reply

Shawn @ I Wash…You Dry: I really need to make these! I am a huge sucker for those soft pretzels! YUM! August 15, 2012 at 7:54pm Reply

Rusty: Need or knead? I need pretzels but I knead my dough. August 16, 2012 at 7:09am Reply

Chung-Ah | Damn Delicious: I absolutely love copycat recipes. And your version looks a hell of a lot better than Aunt Annie’s! August 16, 2012 at 8:18am Reply

yummy tasty: mmmm Its looks Yummy And Amazing Too
and your way to write i love it :) August 17, 2012 at 8:45am Reply

Yammie: Hey! Glad you liked the recipe! They look awesome. :) August 17, 2012 at 9:58am Reply

Jaclyn: Thanks Yammie, thanks for posting an amazing recipe! Love your blog! August 18, 2012 at 7:58am Reply

Candace Stevenson: my dough is currently rising! I can’t WAIT to eat these! Thanks for sharing :)
Lovely Little Rants August 18, 2012 at 6:16pm Reply

Anonymous: it’s auntie annes isnt it? August 19, 2012 at 3:22pm Reply

Jaclyn: Ha ha ha yes, I’m such an airhead sometimes, thanks =)! August 20, 2012 at 7:21pm Reply

Sook: Oh my.. I’m loving your blog!! I wish you had a facebook page. It’d be easier for me to check back on your blog if I had a reminder.. I just followed your pinterest though. :) I just saw a mormon badge on your side bar. I’m LDS too! So fun to meet another LDS food blogger! :) August 22, 2012 at 9:34pm Reply

Anonymous: thank you so much for posting this! We don’t have auntie anne’s prezels in Germany and they just came out soooo good! Especially the ones with sugar and cinnamon August 24, 2012 at 5:15am Reply

Anonymous: heavy heavy sigh – wish these were gluten free…look soooo yummy August 24, 2012 at 10:46am Reply

Carissa Rasmussen: wow those look delicious. I’ve tried some pretzel bites from a recipe I found on pinterest..very disappointing. Hopefully this one works. Can’t wait to try August 25, 2012 at 4:08pm Reply

vanessa: I did today, it came out great!Tastes very good and the kids love it! Thanks for the recipe! August 26, 2012 at 6:33pm Reply

Richa Singh: Thanks Yammie, thanks for providing best information like this. You should make this Diwali some recipe in sweet like BESAN LADOO RECIPE- Diwali Special
September 1, 2012 at 10:12am Reply

Anonymous: I was wondering what non dairy milk can I substitute for. Thanks they look delish September 13, 2012 at 9:18am Reply

Kayla: These were sooooo yummy!! We just finished eating them! Thanks for posting!! Just curious, What is the purpose of the baking soda wash? September 13, 2012 at 3:00pm Reply

Jaclyn: Kayla – I believe it is to help form that nice golden brown crust. I think it also improves texture and flavor. It adds to the puffiness. Thanks for your comment, glad you enjoyed! September 13, 2012 at 8:06pm Reply

Jaclyn: Anonymous – I would recommend trying unsweetened almond milk, soy milk would probably work well too. September 14, 2012 at 8:26am Reply

Evelyn: Do you have the recipe for the ALMOND FLAVORED pretzels at Auntie Anne’s? October 19, 2012 at 12:43am Reply

Jaclyn: Evelyn – no I don’t sorry, I’ve actually never tried that kind but I’ll have to. I’d imagine some almond extract might do the trick and maybe a little more sugar if they are a sweet version. October 19, 2012 at 9:12am Reply

TwinsMommy: another dip recommend: cream cheese. especially with the sweet flavors. I’m pinning this recipe and need to try it October 23, 2012 at 7:08pm Reply

Anonymous: I just made these for my husband’s birthday, they came out great! I also am dairy free so I used nucoa in place of butter and unsweetened rice milk for the milk. Almond and soy tend to be thicker than cow’s milk but so far rice milk has never let me down as a substitute, just be sure to shake it! October 24, 2012 at 4:57pm Reply

Nikki Da Lovely: You are my God sent blessing! I know that sounds a bit extreme but I have ALWAYS loved Auntie Anne’s! I remember going to the mall as a kid begging which ever family was with me for one and then I became a teenager and got a job in the mall and went to Auntie Anne’s whenever I wanted. NOW, I live in lower Alabama and NO ONE knows of these scrumptious treats! This seriously has made my day, hahaha You cannot believe how ecstatic I am that I found this recipe on pinterest! October 31, 2012 at 3:34am Reply

Jaclyn: Nikki – so glad to hear you were happy to see this recipe, I hope you love these! October 31, 2012 at 9:33pm Reply

Liz Goodman: Evelyn – Auntie Anne’s uses the same pretzel dough for all of their pretzels. The almond pretzels are laid flat in an candied-almond crumb mix and then baked as normal. I have no idea what goes into the almond crumb mix, but I do know that they don’t do anything different to the dough — at least, they didn’t ten years ago when I was an Auntie Anne’s prezel girl. :) November 18, 2012 at 1:00pm Reply

Anonymous: Just made these pretzels, family loved them. I will make these again, they were just like mall pretzels. November 27, 2012 at 6:08pm Reply

 

  • Ashlee Christopher: WOW this blog is awesome! These look just like the ones ya get at the mall! First time here! Loving your blog :).
    Thanks for sharing!
    xox
    Ash
    http://abpetite.blogspot.com/ August 14, 2012 at 8:36pm Reply

  • Nicole, RD: These are a weakness of mine. I smell them and am instantaneously hungry…only for Auntie Anne’s! August 15, 2012 at 4:16am Reply

  • sally @ sallys baking addiction: Jaclyn, I think myself and the rest of the world can THANK YOU for posting what may be the best recipe on the planet! I am a huge sucker for those auntie anne’s pretzels. My bf and I split one every time we’re at the mall! I honestly cannot resist them. Never have made them at home but something tells me it would be very dangerous (but worth it!) if I gave it a go. :) August 15, 2012 at 7:49am Reply

  • Jaclyn: Thanks for your comments, hope you can make them very soon =)! August 15, 2012 at 8:51am Reply

  • Melanie: Ok, those pretzels look amazing (even BETTER than the mall variety and that’s saying a lot because I love the mall ones). August 15, 2012 at 3:07pm Reply

  • Shawn @ I Wash…You Dry: I really need to make these! I am a huge sucker for those soft pretzels! YUM! August 15, 2012 at 7:54pm Reply

  • Rusty: Need or knead? I need pretzels but I knead my dough. August 16, 2012 at 7:09amReply

  • Chung-Ah | Damn Delicious: I absolutely love copycat recipes. And your version looks a hell of a lot better than Aunt Annie’s! August 16, 2012 at 8:18am Reply

  • yummy tasty: mmmm Its looks Yummy And Amazing Too
    and your way to write i love it :) August 17, 2012 at 8:45am Reply

  • Yammie: Hey! Glad you liked the recipe! They look awesome. :) August 17, 2012 at 9:58amReply

  • Jaclyn: Thanks Yammie, thanks for posting an amazing recipe! Love your blog! August 18, 2012 at 7:58am Reply

  • Candace Stevenson: my dough is currently rising! I can’t WAIT to eat these! Thanks for sharing :)

    Lovely Little Rants August 18, 2012 at 6:16pm Reply

  • Anonymous: it’s auntie annes isnt it? August 19, 2012 at 3:22pm Reply

  • Jaclyn: Ha ha ha yes, I’m such an airhead sometimes, thanks =)! August 20, 2012 at 7:21pmReply

  • Sook: Oh my.. I’m loving your blog!! I wish you had a facebook page. It’d be easier for me to check back on your blog if I had a reminder.. I just followed your pinterest though. :) I just saw a mormon badge on your side bar. I’m LDS too! So fun to meet another LDS food blogger! :) August 22, 2012 at 9:34pm Reply

  • Anonymous: thank you so much for posting this! We don’t have auntie anne’s prezels in Germany and they just came out soooo good! Especially the ones with sugar and cinnamonAugust 24, 2012 at 5:15am Reply

  • Anonymous: heavy heavy sigh – wish these were gluten free…look soooo yummy August 24, 2012 at 10:46am Reply

  • Carissa Rasmussen: wow those look delicious. I’ve tried some pretzel bites from a recipe I found on pinterest..very disappointing. Hopefully this one works. Can’t wait to try August 25, 2012 at 4:08pm Reply

  • vanessa: I did today, it came out great!Tastes very good and the kids love it! Thanks for the recipe! August 26, 2012 at 6:33pm Reply

  • Richa Singh: Thanks Yammie, thanks for providing best information like this. You should make this Diwali some recipe in sweet like BESAN LADOO RECIPE- Diwali Special
    September 1, 2012 at 10:12am Reply

  • Anonymous: I was wondering what non dairy milk can I substitute for. Thanks they look delish September 13, 2012 at 9:18am Reply

  • Kayla: These were sooooo yummy!! We just finished eating them! Thanks for posting!! Just curious, What is the purpose of the baking soda wash? September 13, 2012 at 3:00pm Reply

  • Jaclyn: Kayla – I believe it is to help form that nice golden brown crust. I think it also improves texture and flavor. It adds to the puffiness. Thanks for your comment, glad you enjoyed! September 13, 2012 at 8:06pm Reply

  • Jaclyn: Anonymous – I would recommend trying unsweetened almond milk, soy milk would probably work well too. September 14, 2012 at 8:26am Reply

  • Evelyn: Do you have the recipe for the ALMOND FLAVORED pretzels at Auntie Anne’s?October 19, 2012 at 12:43am Reply

  • Jaclyn: Evelyn – no I don’t sorry, I’ve actually never tried that kind but I’ll have to. I’d imagine some almond extract might do the trick and maybe a little more sugar if they are a sweet version. October 19, 2012 at 9:12am Reply

  • TwinsMommy: another dip recommend: cream cheese. especially with the sweet flavors. I’m pinning this recipe and need to try it October 23, 2012 at 7:08pm Reply

  • Anonymous: I just made these for my husband’s birthday, they came out great! I also am dairy free so I used nucoa in place of butter and unsweetened rice milk for the milk. Almond and soy tend to be thicker than cow’s milk but so far rice milk has never let me down as a substitute, just be sure to shake it! October 24, 2012 at 4:57pm Reply

  • Nikki Da Lovely: You are my God sent blessing! I know that sounds a bit extreme but I have ALWAYS loved Auntie Anne’s! I remember going to the mall as a kid begging which ever family was with me for one and then I became a teenager and got a job in the mall and went to Auntie Anne’s whenever I wanted. NOW, I live in lower Alabama and NO ONE knows of these scrumptious treats! This seriously has made my day, hahaha You cannot believe how ecstatic I am that I found this recipe on pinterest! October 31, 2012 at 3:34am Reply

    • Jaclyn: Nikki – so glad to hear you were happy to see this recipe, I hope you love these! October 31, 2012 at 9:33pm Reply

  • Liz Goodman: Evelyn – Auntie Anne’s uses the same pretzel dough for all of their pretzels. The almond pretzels are laid flat in an candied-almond crumb mix and then baked as normal. I have no idea what goes into the almond crumb mix, but I do know that they don’t do anything different to the dough — at least, they didn’t ten years ago when I was an Auntie Anne’s prezel girl. :) November 18, 2012 at 1:00pm Reply

  • Anonymous: Just made these pretzels, family loved them. I will make these again, they were just like mall pretzels. November 27, 2012 at 6:08pm Reply

The Top 100 Young Adult Books of All Time

This is quite the site...I finally took a break to check it out. Each week or month (time flies so who can say), I have received an email with a LOT of book stuff in it...a real lot. It is their newsletter.  I scroll through it, but I am a "words" guy...and the newsletter has so many book covers and authors stuffed among large titles and small text that I get vertigo.

 

I wish I had time to read the newsletter, but I don't...plus it is depressing that there are so many books that I've never read and so many authors that I do not recognize. It is depressing...and makes me feel cloddish. I think I will watch a movie or take a nap. Perhaps I will feel better.

 

The trials and tribulations of selecting a Social Media Expert...

I ran the ad below in Guru, looking for Social Media Help. I am a very social creature, but apparently the "Media" part I just don't get.

Pinterest...to cook or not to cook?

A place for the digitally homeless....

 

Facebook has always been mysterious to me and perhaps it will always continue to be. I understand that I need to "connect" and such with "My Community". But who is my community and where do they hide out?  Before I worry with that, I have to understand the mechanics...the methodology and madness to the Facebook layout.

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

you liked the books images. It is important to show these books qualitatively and in the best light for advertising. So I tried to do it realistically and think need to show both versions to show diversity.

 

I would like $XXX per a version.

 

Please see the attached new PDF. I think this font is easier to read and it is combined with "Peeky" inscription. I also changed the background under the text in this area.

 

Hope everything is okay now.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

Cover_II_1-2-3-new.pdf

 

Peeky

 

$XXX per book is fine.  On the cover, though...I will review  it with the publisher this week. I am still concerned with the font

 

Take a look at these covers. What makes them easy to read at less than full size???

 

Peeky

 

 

 

Ruslan Vigovsky

 

Hello Peeky,

 

You attached very simple covers with black font on white and yellow background. It is known that such a combination  looks contrastly.

 

We have more complex concept and the text is on the non-uniform background. Also there is a lot of the text. I made one more version of the cover and decided to leave the previous font, but increase the distance between the letters (range kerning). It is easier to read.

 

Best regards,

 

Ruslan

 

Cover_II_1-2-3-new_2.pdf

 

Peeky

 

That sure makes a big difference!  I will run it by the Publisher. Looks good. Interesting because it looks bigger and the font characters look fuller

 

Peeky

 

 

Lynda dot com has always been my go to when it comes to learning how to do something that the manual does not explain...which is pretty much everything. When software and devices are labeled "intuitive", I know that means I will be spending time on line learning. In fact,  if it has anything to do with photography, software, or technology, I am knocking at her door.  

Over the years, I have used this service for learning aspects of Word, Power Point, Photoshop-CS4, Ipads, Iphones, Google Drive, and the list goes on.  So it makes sense that I would turn to this service first to better understand FB, Twitter, and Instagram. For days, I did just that. I jumped between online tutorials, marketing tips, and "How To Rock Social Media". In the end, I had a much better understanding of those platforms and I walked away knowing that if left up to me, I would NOT be rocking social media and furthermore, if I wanted my Social Media platform to work well, then I needed to pay someone to do it.

Trying to nail down miscellaneous printing costs such as shipping and getting samples of the book cover materials for the printed edition.

Printed and Digital Kickstarter Rewards Worked Out...

 

Finalizing the three tiers for the publication of books for Kickstarter rewards... 

Yesterday I spoke with Brent. He has a lot of experience and helpful suggestions. He was able to recommend art sizes and will come back with some ideas and prices.

 

 

Correspondence  with an experienced fine art printer...

One of the printers misunderstood my specs...but not to MY advantage.

Oziian and thewizardwasodd are also pointing at my site wizardwasodd.com

Trying to think of ways to shave some costs without quality on the limited edition prints

 

I have spent the best part of the day continuing to get a better handle on this

Character issues have been resolved - Jim, a dalailama, Kind Wizard image, and a gribbon (someone's last name that I thought sounded like a good creature name). Ladies do not like Dorothy - back to the drawing board.

The Last Few Days...

Reviewed applications for Guru admin posting...

Reviewing Kickstarter...

Job posting in Guru to transcribe my four month's activity with my scene and character artist - emails and images...

Reviewed Translation Submissions by Applicants...

Worked on limited Edition Books - 

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Ruslan ...

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Finished up my home page

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Posted a job on Guru - Translation from English to Spanish for the series

 

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Pondered again...my coined word, "Oziian".

 

Courtesy of Editors Guild...Types of Editing and Proofreading...

 

Reaching out to Robert, the artist who did my children's book, Fast Food. Forwarding sample Disney maps

 

Rob Sanders who leads our local SCBWI, recommended Joyce Sweeney, a writing coach. So, I am reaching out to her.  http://www.joycesweeney.net/.

We have worked out the fee.

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